ushahid
Senior Member
CIBC Square, Scotia plaza, Santiago Calatrava Galleria at TD
Toronto Union Park | 303.26m | 58s | Oxford Properties | Pelli Clarke Pelli
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concrete_and_light
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Why is the winter garden like two small sterile looking trees in a lobby, come on. The lack of effort here is borderline absolute neglect of an important site, and the attempt to sell it as some sort of premier project is just insulting on top of it. If people who design these things have such low standards or give such low effort honestly why are they in these jobs. There's lots of people who would pour thoughtfulness into things like this if they could.
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
You just made me realize what this podium entrance and the rear rail-deck park design reminded me of: The Citadel in Mass Effect 3
RickyBobby
Active Member
It is the first review of a Rezoning application. Generally interiors aren't even remotely resolved at this stage. Why bother picking trees if the City is going to come back and say they dont even support the use or density and the City hasn't had it's open Houses? This will change through the process.
As an aside, the premier element is the dedication of the space as a walkway and POPS, I think, not necessarily the design of it at this point.
TheSix
Active Member
I wonder if this was their inspiration? ?
AlvinofDiaspar
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Not that atria in office developments are rare, but one can recall Pelli's own Winter Garden Atrium at the World Financial Centre in NYC, which was significantly more generous by the way of plantings (16 palms instead of somewhatevers).
AoD
AoD
ushahid
Senior Member
i think pink Bougainvilleas on the pillars of the garden will look nice too or any other kind of colorful climbers.
EDIT: just saw these new renders of Calgary's Art commons expansion. something like this would be amazing and I know Oxford has the pockets to do execute something like this.
EDIT: just saw these new renders of Calgary's Art commons expansion. something like this would be amazing and I know Oxford has the pockets to do execute something like this.
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ADRM
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Amare
Senior Member
The "winter garden" here wont even come 1/100th of the way as it has over at the London Skygarden.
The current proposal at The Hub is the closest we're going to get to that, but upon each reiteration of that project, it's getting more and more watered down. I wouldnt be surprised if we end up with 4 trees at that location by the time all is said and done.
Automation Gallery
Superstar
Hey come on... ?
Amare
Senior Member
^Dont worry at least there would be one tree for each corner of the building!
Unlike with this "winter garden" where all we'll be seeing are faux lookalike trees.
Unlike with this "winter garden" where all we'll be seeing are faux lookalike trees.
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vatche
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Why doesn’t Toronto know how to do things well. It never impresses. They always settle for mediocrity, nothing more nothing less.
Lenser
Senior Member
Let's all complain to the end of our days! It's bound to end up being positive.
holographic plastic
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It's what people on here to best, after all.
Mercenary
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The reason is London is an International Global City. Toronto is simply not in that league. Toronto is also overshadowed by New York City and Chicago to a lesser degree and thus there is really no need to go for such extravagance. Toronto does things which are economical and simple. Its mindset is simply not flashy or extravagant and Torontonians simply do not push the architects or developers to go for something more bolder.