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Toronto St. Clair West Transit Improvements | ?m | ?s | TTC

Took a fast visit to St Clair today and no way will be it be done by Oct 15 for Gunns Loop, let alone Nov 15 unless someone light a fire under Dufferin Construction for Nov.

It will be interesting to see how much of Keele Intersection gets rebuilt from Oct 2-5. Sidewalk still not in place west of Keele after 2 weeks as well the completion of the east side. Major detours this weekend as well delays.

Dufferin is turning out to be worse than the nighttime crew who work on Dundas a few years ago.

The other company should be out of the the other area for Phase IV by this weekend subject to weather.

You need to read my comments on the youtube photo's I have posted tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG9OJVL92q4 Dufferin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CLqU4-9iR0 Phase IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXc-sRRXWGs Phase II

Construction will not be finish on Bathurst Dupont Bridge this year. Work on the east side will be done in Oct, but it will take about another 3 months to do the west side. It maybe push into spring of 2010 which will close southbound lanes to both traffic and TTC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON7CSb7hmbs
 
sidewalk safety issue between Keele and Old Weston

called 311 and reported it

cut and pasted the previous message and was told a supervisor would check all emails tonight

(not sure if the operator trusted the source, but... ;^)

ed
 
Ed Drass said:
called 311 and reported it

cut and pasted the previous message and was told a supervisor would check all emails tonight

(not sure if the operator trusted the source, but... ;^)

ed
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The photo's under Dufferin shows that it is a mess to walk through on both sides of Keele.

If you are waking from Keele to the Bingo hall, you are supposed to walk on the north side to Old Weston Rd, cross St Clair and then walk back to the hall. You are haft on the sidewalk and then on the road with barriers from traffic.

Have seen people walking on the south side even when it block off from/to Keele.

Anyone getting hit or kill (hope not) because of this mess, neither the contractor nor the City have a hope in hell defending themselves over any claims. Poooor management.
 
311 got back on Keele-Old Weston "sidewalk"

The city emailed me back at 0927, saying an inspector would be on site within 24 hours to make sure the area is safe.

Follow-up reports?
 
drum118 said:
The photo's under Dufferin shows that it is a mess to walk through on both sides of Keele.

If you are waking from Keele to the Bingo hall, you are supposed to walk on the north side to Old Weston Rd, cross St Clair and then walk back to the hall. You are haft on the sidewalk and then on the road with barriers from traffic.

Have seen people walking on the south side even when it block off from/to Keele.

Anyone getting hit or kill (hope not) because of this mess, neither the contractor nor the City have a hope in hell defending themselves over any claims. Poooor management.
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Unfortunately due to absolutely no signage giving direction, too few barricades and poor lighting you don't realize the state of the sidewalk until you're at the overpass (there are holes in the sidewalk but I admit to sidestepping those) Hopefully something is being done about it today.
You're absolutely correct, very poor management.
 
Wonder if anyone else had noticed on Bathurst Street that between Dupont and the Hillcrest Yard entrance, the trolley overhead wire is up over the southbound tracks. Construction is continuing on the northbound side. I noticed that the painted yellow lines have been worn out on the southbound tracks.

To me, that means that the streetcars are being shuttled between the Hillcrest Yard and London Street (at Bathurst Station & Bathurst Street) using only the southbound tracks on Bathurst Street. Once the streetcar reverses past the entrance, it can then go forward into the yard, loop around, and continue on up Bathurst Street to St. Clair Avenue as normal. Southbound streetcars could continue straight down Bathurst Street.

Has anyone actually seen streetcars reversing up Bathurst Street using only the southbound tracks, in the middle of the night, probably with a police escort?
 
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W. K. Lis said:
Wonder if anyone else had noticed on Bathurst Street that between Dupont and the Hillcrest Yard entrance, the trolley overhead wire is up over the southbound tracks. Construction is continuing on the northbound side. I noticed that the painted yellow lines have been worn out on the southbound tracks.

To me, that means that the streetcars are being shuttled between the Hillcrest Yard and London Street (at Bathurst Station & Bathurst Street) using only the southbound tracks on Bathurst Street. Once the streetcar reverses past the entrance, it can then go forward into the yard, loop around, and continue on up Bathurst Street to St. Clair Avenue as normal. Southbound streetcars could continue straight down Bathurst Street.

Has anyone actually seen streetcars reversing up Bathurst Street using only the southbound tracks, in the middle of the night, probably with a police escort?
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TTC has been moving streetcars backward up the southbound lane about every 2 weeks or when needed and run the cars back down at the same time.

Supervisors cars are use to escort the cars up.

TTC is supposed to get the northbound lane in Nov and the reverse will happen when construction starts on the west side for the retaining wall work.
 
Ed Drass said:
The city emailed me back at 0927, saying an inspector would be on site within 24 hours to make sure the area is safe.

Follow-up reports?
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I walked that stretch today. They put a very specific sign up at Old Weston Road that the sidewalk was open to the Bingo Hall, but to cross to the other side to get to Keele. On the other side of the road, there's a sign that said that the sidewalk was closed, which was ignored for lack of other options.

Then one gets to the crumbling, leaky and dark (and with the ROW, narrow) underpass. There are no plans to replace it with something better.
 
That underpass is a menace, but it probably can't be widened on the north side at all because of the new housing development. As a cyclist, I hate seeing bike and car traffic reduced to one narrow lane in either direction through the underpass, but we have to live with it, I guess. The new road surface will be a relief as the current surface seems to have become even more battered since they diverted traffic to two narrow lanes this summer: nasty for cars, a death trap for bikes.

The water main repairs and new surfaces at the Keele and St. Clair intersection were finally finished as of this morning, but the sidewalk work on the north side, west out to Gunn, will still bottleneck westbound traffic for another couple of weeks, I think.
 
The north side sidewalk was open on Thursday between the bridge and Old Weston Rd.

Surprise Surprise, they are pouring the sidewalk west of Keele on Wed.

The eastbound lane was seeing concrete pour on Tuesday east of Dufferin and with work still to take place on grading. Thursday they were paving it and that fast compare to others section.

Should be open to traffic this weekend as the contractor needs to put the westbound traffic on the ROW so he can start work on the last 3 blocks of sidewalk and the road for the 6 block to meet the end of Oct time table.

Crews were removing all the existing and temporary poles west of Vaughan Rd.

Keele intersection did not open until Noon on Tuesday and I was on the last northbound 89 on detour at 12:30. No idea when 41 went off detour as they were still on it at 1:30pm.

Overhead for Phase III is 100% done except connection at the Lansdowne loop and only happen Sunday night to Tuesday.
 
Phase II work seems to be nearing completion.

Several dozen trees have been dropped off on Alberta Avenue awaiting planting. They look pretty robust with several years growth beyond saplings.

The new traffic signals are being turned on and the temporary ones removed. The new intersection at Alberta Ave. is having signals installed now.

Most of the transit shelters are done or in the final stages of being completed and the last few crosswalk markings are being painted on.

What's hapening in phases III and IV?
 
Jonny5 said:
Phase II work seems to be nearing completion.

Several dozen trees have been dropped off on Alberta Avenue awaiting planting. They look pretty robust with several years growth beyond saplings.

The new traffic signals are being turned on and the temporary ones removed. The new intersection at Alberta Ave. is having signals installed now.

Most of the transit shelters are done or in the final stages of being completed and the last few crosswalk markings are being painted on.

What's hapening in phases III and IV?
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Sidewalk on the north side should be finish as there was only 1 block to go on Tuesday with concrete been pour on Wed.

The concrete for the road should be pour up to Glenholme by Sat with paving next week. The last 3 blocks of road will be finish the first week of Nov.

The last 2 platforms will be finish this weekend.

Some of those new tress look not too good and very small.

Once traffic is off the ROW, centre poles will go up so TTC can string the wires. Oakwood loop will be the last thing wire as TTC is trying a different pantograph system for it as opposite to the pantograph system up fror Lansdowne loop. Not sure what been use for Gunns loop at this time.

All the shelters are in various stages of insulation and cannot see why none of them are completed to the east of Oakwood by now.

The contractor is running with extra crews for the last 6 weeks.

Phase III is 100% wire except where the wires cross each other at Lansdowne.

Phase IV is 100% complete up to Ford Dr and waiting overhead system as well shelters.

Dufferin has rebuilt Old Weston Rd intersection with tacks in place. TTC still had to splice the rail to connect to the finish section of Phase IV so concrete can be pour for the rails.

A new retaining wall been built east of the bridge on the south side finally.

Most of the north side sidewalk has been rebuilt with a new curb lane pave west of Keele at stops about 200' from Gunns loop. New sidewalk been pour on the south side west of Keele.

No idea when the eastbound lane is going to be tore up to get the track to Keele St.

I understand this is a design in progress with many changes taking place on the fly. Dufferin has stated they should be finish by year end.

So streetcars to Lansdowne starting Dec 20 and maybe to Gunns Loop by March 2010.

Special opening been plan for the Dec 20th opening.

Another new set of Traffic lights going in at Alberta Av to help to slow down service.

The trees are very small over in Phase IV.

NOTE:
41S is on detour until 2010 using Weston Rd or until the bus can turn onto St Clair safely which I don't see happen at all.
 
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Per a community meeting the other night, info relayed by Steve Munro here, Phase 4 is completely borked and won't open until August 2010. Service to Lansdowne will open December 20. Oakwood loop will not open until some undetermined time in the future. The eastbound platform at Dufferin was designed too wide and since it's already built they have to demolish it and do it again.
 
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