Toronto Spadina Subway Extension Emergency Exits | ?m | 1s | TTC | IBI Group
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W. K. Lis
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Back from the future...
Okay, just kidding. It's just Sheppard West to Lawrence West (see link). However, might as well get some practice in, just in case.
Line 1: Vaughan Metropolitan Centre to Lawrence West closure on September 9 and 10
There will be no subway service between Vaughan Metropolitan Centre and Lawrence West stations on September 9 and 10 due to track work.
All trains on Line 1 will turn back southbound at Lawrence West Station. Shuttle buses will operate between these stations during this closure.
There will be no subway service between Vaughan Metropolitan Centre and Lawrence West stations on September 9 and 10 due to track work.
All trains on Line 1 will turn back southbound at Lawrence West Station. Shuttle buses will operate between these stations during this closure.
Fred.S
Active Member
That brings up a good question, will TTC run shuttle busses all the way to VMC if Line 1 shut down? Does YRT take up the slack? Anyone know if they have a published plan for this somewhere?
W. K. Lis
Superstar
YRT would have to take care of the situation north and along Steeles Avenue. The TTC would take care south and also along Steeles Avenue.
Megaton327
Senior Member
York University station is looking good--landscaping appears to be complete, and the fencing which used to be much further out is now much closer to the station, so you can get very close to it. Can't wait for these stations to open.
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Leo_Chan
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Is than an emergency exit on the bottom middle left in the second photo? I never noticed that.
Transportfan
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Steve X
Senior Member
You're saying if there was a shutdown from Finch West to VMC, TTC will dump them at Pioneer Village, tell them to walk to the YRT bus terminal and wait for another shuttle bus.
I don't understand why they're terminating the 41E at Finch West either. It's just more hassle to get to York U.
Richard White
Senior Member
This is probably easier than sending drivers into unfamiliar territory. TTC operators have (for the most part) no idea where to go north of Steeles.
Would you prefer to get lost on your way to VMC?
There is a principal that probably applies to the shuttles as it does to normal operations. Legally speaking other transit companies cannot pick up and drop off in Toronto. What this means is YRT/Viva cannot pick someone up at Sheppard West and drop them off at Downsview Park or vice versa.
IIRC the only time this has been done recently was when the garbage train nearly burned down Old Mill. Mississauga Transit ran buses to Dundas West to meet demand.
Even DRT in the east end cannot drop off people when heading from UTSC until it reaches Altona Road in Pickering. Miway is the same. It can pick up heading from Islington to Mississauga but not drop off until it passes Mill street
cplchanb
Senior Member
uhh...its a called a map...and they dont need to navigate that far anyways...its a predefined route and im sure theyre intelligent enough to be able to learn and remember after 1 run. Im sure with proper arrangement and briefings they can figure out the route and be prepared for it. they dont get paid $30+/hr just to be thoughtless drones. then again........
Richard White
Senior Member
They cant use a map while driving as it against the law and for the most part they will only do one run. Nothing worse than the operator making a wrong turn.
They can only look at maps or work related items at a full stop parked so to speak like a red light.
Also if someone jumps at Finch West for example there really isnt time for briefings and arrangement. They need to get shuttles out not give out detailed instructions like they would for a scheduled closure
cplchanb
Senior Member
what i mean is that they have months to practice possible scenarios. there really isnt that many different ways up and down the line and im pretty sure the turnover rate of drivers isnt so high that those who drive now wont be there when the line opens.
its just like ttc running their buses up into north region for those shared routes. once they get it once its like riding a bike.
Richard White
Senior Member
Good point but even still when shuttles are needed they pull operators from other routes. They don't have time to give detailed maps and instructions like they do with scheduled closures
cplchanb
Senior Member
any insiders on ttc operations know the answer to this? is there a reserve pool based on division where they can draw from or is it an all hands on deck scenario?
Richard White
Senior Member
My father has been an operator since 1988. I can tell you right now there is no pool of shuttle operators always on standby.
When they have scheduled closures they put the work up as overtime thereby scheduling crews.
They have something called spare board which are spare operators awaiting work but they get sent home after a hour or two of waiting. There is usually only a few if that operators on spare board at each time because they get paid even if they are sent home. They are there to fill no shows and sick calls not for shuttle service.
You need more than a couple operators for shuttles so what they usually do is call operators in the field who are on less busy routes or finishing up and ask if they can do a shuttle.
My father has been asked a number of times while driving to do one.