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Gee the Star know hows to twist things around, lol......development doesn't necessarily mean demolishing the Pods and Cinesphere that are pretty well above water
.... Lots of land around there for a developer to incorporate it and build something nice
  • The areas available for development includes the Ontario Place islands, mainland, pods, and the Cinesphere

 
Automation Gallery said:
Gee the Star know hows to twist things around, lol......development doesn't necessarily mean demolishing the Pods and Cinesphere that are pretty well above water
.... Lots of land around there for a developer to incorporate it and build something nice
  • The areas available for development includes the Ontario Place islands, mainland, pods, and the Cinesphere
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The very fact that it is an option is sufficient cause for alarm. You don't include what you would consider disposable otherwise. The call didn't say - proposal must incorporate pods and Cinesphere.

AoD
 
Also, prepare for a possible buh-bye to the city's best new large park:
  • Proposals may be for a portion of the site or for the entire site. The government intends to maintain 7.5 acres of park land. Submissions that propose the use of any part of Trillium Park will be required to develop new park land of an equivalent size at the site.
 
Can people please stop panicking before we see any real submissions? For all we know, there could be some amazing proposal that is much better than what we currently have. In all honesty, what we have now is beautiful but abandoned.
 
raptor said:
Can people please stop panicking before we see any real submissions? For all we know, there could be some amazing proposal that is much better than what we currently have. In all honesty, what we have now is beautiful but abandoned.
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I tend not to be a hard preservationist but certainly this is one case that calls for appreciating what's currently there. What we have - the pods and Cinesphere - is historical and meaningful - and should be preserved. It's like someone saying that replacing Old (or New City Hall) can provide the opportunity for something much better than what we currently have - it cannot, and it misses the point.

AoD
 
raptor said:
Can people please stop panicking before we see any real submissions? For all we know, there could be some amazing proposal that is much better than what we currently have. In all honesty, what we have now is beautiful but abandoned.
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Haha, I think we have a bigger problem here with individuals that dislike like the government and worried with the privatization of the site than what an amazing venue this can be?
 
Automation Gallery said:
Haha, I think we have a bigger problem here with individuals that dislike like the government and worried with the privatization of the site than what an amazing venue this can be?
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...or maybe we're genuinely worried -- independent of ideological proclivities -- that the guy who now happens to be Premier has throughout his career promoted thoroughly uninspiring plans (along with uses that generally bring about negative social externalities) for similar sites.
 
Allowing the proposals the freedom to explore removal of existing structures in the design vision is actually refreshing in our age of preservationist compromise; however, it is concerning in the sense that Ford represents the same kind of forces that would have seen most of Toronto’s landmarks demolished re: unbuilt Toronto.

Actually even worse one couldn’t rule out the possibility that Ford himself would influence the proposal process to allow personal development contacts developed during his work on the Portland’s and Woodbine Racetrack/casino to win a bid process.
 
If you *really* want to know what's ominous and worrisome, it's the fact that the Province has, coincidental with this announcement, "conveniently" yanked the Ontario Place heritage value statement page.

Web archived here..

https://web.archive.org/web/2018122...on.ca/en/ontarioplace/heritagestatement.shtml

If the call for proposals isn't reflective enough of the government's vandalistic callousness, *that* is--essentially, they're burying OP's heritage status and hoping that nobody notices. And I'd expect their feet to be drawn over the fire for that move, maybe even preemptive of any proposals coming across the table...
 
TrickyRicky said:
Allowing the proposals the freedom to explore removal of existing structures in the design vision is actually refreshing in our age of preservationist compromise; however, it is concerning in the sense that Ford represents the same kind of forces that would have seen most of Toronto’s landmarks demolished re: unbuilt Toronto.

Actually even worse one couldn’t rule out the possibility that Ford himself would influence the proposal process to allow personal development contacts developed during his work on the Portland’s and Woodbine Racetrack/casino to win a bid process.
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I know an heiress to one of the large real estate development empires in the city. Her elated responses to the Ford election were baffling to me - until I remembered that she is an heiress to one of the large real estate development empires in the city. $$ ONTARIO PLACE! $$ GREEN BELT! $$
 
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