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But hey; we'd have had a John Andrews tour de force in Metro Centre. Yeah, Union Station would have had to go; but, hey...
 
Towered said:
Are you kidding? If Doug Ford had been premier back then he'd have ignored her and we would have a ghastly trench disfiguring the Annex, Kensington and Chinatown today.

Also, Streetcars For Toronto would also have been a failure.
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The ironic thing is that Davis, the premier of the time, was the leading name fighting the Hurontario LRT in Brampton. And he won too.
 
Aren't some of the downtown councillors sitting on hundred of millions of dollars in parkland fees. I say give up the Raildeck fantasy and put in our own proposal for
a new park called Toronto Place (Formerly known as Ontario Place). There is a lot of doom and gloom about this place but the reality is the liberals spent over a decade doing very little here and tossed in who knows how much money in the dying years of their administration to do something. Now we have a government in power that the city councillors are hostile towards. Redevelopment of this space should have been a priority years ago.
 
adma said:
If you *really* want to know what's ominous and worrisome, it's the fact that the Province has, coincidental with this announcement, "conveniently" yanked the Ontario Place heritage value statement page.

Web archived here..

https://web.archive.org/web/2018122...on.ca/en/ontarioplace/heritagestatement.shtml

If the call for proposals isn't reflective enough of the government's vandalistic callousness, *that* is--essentially, they're burying OP's heritage status and hoping that nobody notices. And I'd expect their feet to be drawn over the fire for that move, maybe even preemptive of any proposals coming across the table...
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Further thoughts on these kinds of dirty-cop tactics: at this point, I wouldn't even be all that surprised if the pods and Cinesphere wound up burning in a "mysterious" arson fire, thus "conveniently" sealing their fate.

Under this regime, you never know.
 
adma said:
Further thoughts on these kinds of dirty-cop tactics: at this point, I wouldn't even be all that surprised if the pods and Cinesphere wound up burning in a "mysterious" arson fire, thus "conveniently" sealing their fate.

Under this regime, you never know.
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Not a fire, but an early morning bulldozer fest, like this:
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adma said:
Further thoughts on these kinds of dirty-cop tactics: at this point, I wouldn't even be all that surprised if the pods and Cinesphere wound up burning in a "mysterious" arson fire, thus "conveniently" sealing their fate.

Under this regime, you never know.
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Maybe DoFo and his buddies will go down to OP at 3:00 AM and burn the Cinesphere and pods down... it would be a sad day if that happens, but you never know..
 
Given the nature of Ontario Place, it would require something a bit more "involved" than a West Toronto-style early morning bulldozer fest.

And if we go by reports, DoFo's got more than enough buddies in low places to make a "suspicious" fire happen. What's good enough for the Empress Hotel is good enough for Ontario Place...
 
RonThom said:
Fascinating. Not exactly a gem though.
Source: https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/06/5_toronto_railway_stations_we_wish_we_still_had/
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That it was done in defiance of the Cdn Transport Commission (now CTA) as well as the City is testament as to how far the 'self entitled' will go.
The Canadian Transport Commission (CTC) was Canada's first fully converged, multi-modal regulator.

The body was created by Canada's Parliament on September 19, 1967, to assume the responsibilities of two bodies: the Board of Transport Commissioners (1938–1967), which oversaw air and railway regulation, and the Canadian Maritime Commission (1947–1967). The Board of Transport Commissioners also bequeathed the CTC responsibility for telecommunications, which it regulated until ceding that jurisdiction to the Canadian Radio-Television Commission (CRTC) in 1976, leading the CRTC to change its name to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission. The CTC itself was renamed the National Transportation Agency (NTA) in 1988, then the Canadian Transportation Agency (CTA) in 1996.

In 1992 the NTA was given additional powers to make federally regulated transportation accessible for persons with disabilities, moving its scope beyond economic regulation and into consumer regulation for the first time in the modern era.
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Real prescience of Ford!

It's not whether the station was a "gem" or not, it's the absolute disregard of existing order and law that's the point, and getting away with it.

For some reason the full link won't post here correctly, so here's the link again in a compact form:
West Toronto CPR Farewell
 
steveintoronto said:
That it was done in defiance of the Cdn Transport Commission (now CTA) as well as the City is testament as to how far the 'self entitled' will go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Transport_Commission

Real prescience of Ford!

It's not whether the station was a "gem" or not, it's the absolute disregard of existing order and law that's the point, and getting away with it.

For some reason the full link won't post here correctly, so here's the link again in a compact form:
West Toronto CPR Farewell
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Ford vs railways !
 
RonThom said:
Fascinating. Not exactly a gem though.

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Source: https://www.blogto.com/city/2014/06/5_toronto_railway_stations_we_wish_we_still_had/
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That was the *Grand Trunk* station; a different one, and yes, less spectacular (and in a more obscure location)--and it lasted until the 1990s.
http://www.trha.ca/trha/history/stations-2/west-toronto-station-grand-trunk-railway/

*This* was the 1982-demolished station in question--the CPR station.
http://www.trha.ca/trha/history/stations-2/west-toronto-station-canadian-pacific-railway/

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Now, can you understand the outcry?
 
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