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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

Earlier today @ Birchmount I saw 2 EB trains at opposite ends of that intersection (well, close enough that they'd fit into the same panorama picture you'd take on your phone)
Wasn't expecting to see bunching on a Sunday!
 
Revenue Service Demonstration (RSD) on the Eglinton Line began on October 7, 2025, so it's been 47 days since the 30 day demonstration began, and 29 days since the resumption of testing on Oct 25. If they restarted RSD on Oct 25 then Nov 24 should be the end of RSD. But Metrolinx claimed they did not restart RSD.
 
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I know this forum will use any excuse to go off-topic, but I think debating the worst aspects of people's deaths on a completely different transit line in a completely different city is too off-topic even for this group

Anyways,
Revenue Service Demonstration (RSD) on the Eglinton Line began on October 7, 2025, so it's been 47 days since the 30 day demonstration began, and 29 days since the resumption of testing on Oct 25. If they restarted RSD on Oct 25 then Nov 24 should be the end of RSD. But Metrolinx claimed they did not restart RSD.
Yup - if there's "absolutely still a chance" for this to open in 2025, then an announcement about substantial completion and/or full handover to the TTC should be made very soon. Unfortunately, given that MX's board documents (dated for this Thursday) state that Line 5 is still currently in RSD, I am not optimistic about any 2025 opening date
 
People's preferences vary. Shakiness is not a factor for me, but may be a factor for other riders.

On Eglinton, we can expect a massive inflow of riders, but it will be hard to classify what brought them to this line because multiple factors will be in play.

New residential construction => a greater pool of potential riders.

Much faster operation in the tunnel part => Eglinton route is more attractive for existing riders who previously chose other routes.

Plus, the comfort factor.
The majority of riders will probably have been accustomed to taking the buses along Eglinton and will prefer the LRT because of frequency and reliability. There may be some who used to take a different bus where now line 5 will improve some section of their journey.

I used to have to make a choice between the number 11 bus from Davisville which would stop right in front of my destination or one of the buses from Eglinton where I would either change to the 11 at Bayview or walk the extra distance. The 11 was too infrequent and often unreliable, and also I am prone to motion sickness and that section along Davisville in the bus would leave me feeling very queasy. The Eglinton bus was much better and I don't think there's any question I would prefer line 5 over the bus.
Yup - if there's "absolutely still a chance" for this to open in 2025, then an announcement about substantial completion and/or full handover to the TTC should be made very soon. Unfortunately, given that MX's board documents (dated for this Thursday) state that Line 5 is still currently in RSD, I am not optimistic about any 2025 opening date
My bet is there is a lot of pressure and if there is any hope at all they are trying for an 11th hour go.
 
Revenue Service Demonstration (RSD) on the Eglinton Line began on October 7, 2025, so it's been 47 days since the 30 day demonstration began, and 29 days since the resumption of testing on Oct 25. If they restarted RSD on Oct 25 then Nov 24 should be the end of RSD. But Metrolinx claimed they did not restart RSD.
I thought metrolinx did claim that RSD restarted, or at least the minister of transportation publicly stated that
 
I thought metrolinx did claim that RSD restarted, or at least the minister of transportation publicly stated that
Yes, MX made this claim on October 23:
According to the Transportation Minister, RSD will be resuming today...

I think @Obsidian is trying to say that MX did not restart RSD from day 1 on October 25. This is confirmed by the Global News article from November 11: "As the earlier incident occurred during the unscored phase of testing, the timeline for RSD did not ‘restart’ to day 1 but rather resumed as unscored testing once the trains were on the line again".
 
The majority of riders will probably have been accustomed to taking the buses along Eglinton and will prefer the LRT because of frequency and reliability. There may be some who used to take a different bus where now line 5 will improve some section of their journey.
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Nothing gets me more frustrated than how long it can take sometimes for an eastbound 32 bus to be able to turn left out of Cedarvale because of how many selfish drivers block the clearly identified box trying to get onto the Allen.
 
Because it's in the suburbs, they don't have destinations out there.

But more specifically in the case of the map, you can see that line 5 is not shown in its full length, either, only in so far as it touches Line 1. It's not supposed to be a full demonstration of the service, only to call out that Line 1 intersects with it.
For what it’s worth, I think this map is trying to serve too many purposes. Given its location and the info included, it’s trying to function as a line diagram. Line diagrams are intended to do two things: verify the stations ahead/behind from a given platform, and highlight available connections to other lines. If they had kept the stations in between both sides of line 1 off, I think this would’ve been much clearer but by including them, it implies the map is intended to do a lot more than its designed to do, making the info it doesn’t provide much more obvious. I would suggest most people when then get to a platform have some understanding of what station they intend to go to, they’re looking for confirmation that that’s the platform that will take them there.
 
I wonder how many items from the Line 6 service note will make its way over to Line 5:
Service note:

Fifteen fully accessible trains will operate during weekday morning and afternoon rush hours, with service every six and a half minutes. At all other times, including weekends, trains will arrive approximately every 10 to 12 minutes.

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

Between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m., service will be provided by buses operating every 10 minutes, serving on-street LRT stops along the Finch West corridor. The TTC’s Blue Night bus service will operate after 1 a.m. until the start of train service at 6 a.m. Monday to Saturday, and 8 a.m. on Sundays.

  • 5 1/2 - 6 minutes service during rush hour
  • 10 - 12 minutes service during non-rush hour
  • "Soft opening" conditions (6am - 10pm) until Spring 2026
  • Bus service from 10pm - 1am
I assume/hope Line 5 will operate more frequently than Line 6 (I'm sure the real service times have been mentioned somewhere in this thread before), but I can see the "soft opening" conditions making its way to this line, given how badly the government and MX do not want to repeat the mistakes from the Ottawa LRT.
 
Yup - if there's "absolutely still a chance" for this to open in 2025, then an announcement about substantial completion and/or full handover to the TTC should be made very soon. Unfortunately, given that MX's board documents (dated for this Thursday) state that Line 5 is still currently in RSD, I am not optimistic about any 2025 opening date
I'd give less weight to the board documents and more weight to what the CEO and others are saying right now and will say during the board meeting. The board documents are usually a couple of weeks progress off from reality.
 
From https://stevemunro.ca/2025/11/21/line-6-finch-december-7-2025/

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

So we can expect to see a SOFT OPENING of Line 5 as well. Likely from 6 AM to 10 PM for one season. Now will that season end?
 
I wonder how many items from the Line 6 service note will make its way over to Line 5:

  • 5 1/2 - 6 minutes service during rush hour
  • 10 - 12 minutes service during non-rush hour
  • "Soft opening" conditions (6am - 10pm) until Spring 2026
  • Bus service from 10pm - 1am
I assume/hope Line 5 will operate more frequently than Line 6 (I'm sure the real service times have been mentioned somewhere in this thread before), but I can see the "soft opening" conditions making its way to this line, given how badly the government and MX do not want to repeat the mistakes from the Ottawa LRT.
Didn't ML want a much better service on Line 5?

Bus service on Line 5 would be much more complicated. Unlike Line 6 where most routes don't feed into the line, Line 5 has Mount Dennis, Keelesdale and Don Valley where buses would dump significant amounts of riders. It would be very frustrating for riders to take multiple buses unless they continue the regular network after10pm. That would cause a lot of confusion too. I guess it would be best to just run a Line 5 shuttle bus if they are doing to do this.
 
So we can expect to see a SOFT OPENING of Line 5 as well. Likely from 6 AM to 10 PM for one season. Now will that season end?
Gosh, this makes Line 6 sound like one of those "limited" routes that does not run full service. (Even if it's just 3 hours less.) Quite an expensive project just for that. Hopefully it's temporary, but in that case it sounds like the TTC aren't ready, despite the 3 year delay in opening. I do hope Line 5 does not open like this.
 

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