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Finch West Line 6 LRT

I'm not sure what argument you are chasing, in the post you initially responded to I was comparing the travel times of private vehicles along Finch to the LRT.

"Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. "

I promise you would feel so much less angst should you dedicate a whole 90 seconds to watching a stretch of the video where drum118 (in his car) comes up alongside a LRT, and quickly passes it in light-moderate traffic over a series of about 3 intersections, before permanently leaving it behind.
which video? the one they most recently posted? If that is the case, as I have said repeatedly over the course of this month, RSD is over and they are training one last class of operators before opening and are not adhering to any sort of schedule so take the travel times, headways and speeds with a grain of salt because they are training operators without having the added pressure of potentially slowing down or interrupting an in-service line.
 
which video? the one they most recently posted? If that is the case, as I have said repeatedly over the course of this month, RSD is over and they are training one last class of operators before opening and are not adhering to any sort of schedule so take the travel times, headways and speeds with a grain of salt because they are training operators without having the added pressure of potentially slowing down or interrupting an in-service line.
Also - for 3 intersections? What time of day? Which day of the week? Which location?

In light traffic? Why would anyone ever expect the LRT to be faster than a streetcar in light traffic? The subway isn't - except perhaps a couple of spots with very long spacing, and or it's running diagonal, and cutting travel distance.
 
Also - for 3 intersections? What time of day? Which day of the week? Which location?

In light traffic? Why would anyone ever expect the LRT to be faster than a streetcar in light traffic? The subway isn't - except perhaps a couple of spots with very long spacing, and or it's running diagonal, and cutting travel distance.

Charitably, perhaps this could be interpreted as being a shot at the TTC's slow streetcar policies which I would expect to carry over onto the LRTs. And sure, it's something we can do a lot better at than we currently do, but the excessive focus on a transit line being a bit slower than it could otherwise be strikes me as missing the forest for the trees.

People aren't going to skip using the LRT because it takes 5 minutes longer than a car. That's a really trivial amount, especially if the service runs frequently. People don't choose transit when it's a situation as seen in the suburbs. GO buses stuck in traffic, or even local connections being slow and infrequent. My brother stopped going to a college that is a 20 minute drive away from bus because his commute took him an hour and a half one way!!!
 
I've always been confused over the French translations.

Finch Ouest?
Station names, street names, and destination names are treated as proper nouns — even when they include cardinal directions. This is because translated names don’t carry past Metrolinx-owned infrastructure. At TTC interchanges and everywhere else, a French translation would disappear the moment you leave an MX station. Keeping the original name as a proper noun preserves continuity for French speakers instead of giving them a one-off translated label that exists in limited form but disappears for other parts of their journey.
 
Why would anyone ever expect the LRT to be faster than a streetcar in light traffic? The subway isn't - except perhaps a couple of spots with very long spacing, and or it's running diagonal, and cutting travel distance.
I'm very confused as to what you are comparing the LRT to? I never mentioned streetcars, and the subway does in fact run faster than streetcars since you have brought that up.

It honestly feels like you are barely skimming everything you are responding to, leading to very confusing responses
 
Confirmed by the TTC

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Service note:

Fifteen fully accessible trains will operate during weekday morning and afternoon rush hours, with service every six and a half minutes. At all other times, including weekends, trains will arrive approximately every 10 to 12 minutes.

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

Between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m., service will be provided by buses operating every 10 minutes, serving on-street LRT stops along the Finch West corridor. The TTC’s Blue Night bus service will operate after 1 a.m. until the start of train service at 6 a.m. Monday to Saturday, and 8 a.m. on Sundays.

 
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I'm very confused as to what you are comparing the LRT to? I never mentioned streetcars, and the subway does in fact run faster than streetcars since you have brought that up.

It honestly feels like you are barely skimming everything you are responding to, leading to very confusing responses
Yeah they have a habit of doing that, then when they get called out for doing it with receipts they delete their posts. Even though they make really good points occasionally, for some reason they can act purposefully contrarian at best, full blown antagonistic at worst. All while changing the topic and appearing to not read the posts they're replying to.

I can't tell at this point if they genuinely struggle with reading comprehension or they're just trolling. Real chilling effect on discourse though, because some users don't have thick skin and are more likely to stop talking because they've been strawmanned and/or personally attacked. The person's message/reaction score ratio and post history are evidence enough. We're not the first ones to get exasperated.
 
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Service note:

Fifteen fully accessible trains will operate during weekday morning and afternoon rush hours, with service every six and a half minutes. At all other times, including weekends, trains will arrive approximately every 10 to 12 minutes.

Following the recommendations of the Ottawa LRT public inquiry, Line 6 Finch West will operate under “soft opening” conditions with trains running from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. until Spring 2026. The temporary early closing will provide the line’s maintainers, Mosaic Transit Group, with an extended maintenance window, allowing staff to become more familiar with the line and monitor it for any issues while in full revenue service.

Between 10 p.m. and 1 a.m., service will be provided by buses operating every 10 minutes, serving on-street LRT stops along the Finch West corridor. The TTC’s Blue Night bus service will operate after 1 a.m. until the start of train service at 6 a.m. Monday to Saturday, and 8 a.m. on Sundays.

I guess we knew this already, but those are pretty terrible headways and not very TTC-like.
 
I'm very confused as to what you are comparing the LRT to? I never mentioned streetcars, and the subway does in fact run faster than streetcars since you have brought that up.

It honestly feels like you are barely skimming everything you are responding to, leading to very confusing responses
Speaking of skimming - when did I mention streetcars to you? The streetcar comment was because of what T3G said.

Do they have enough trains to ramp up service to every 5 - 7 off-peak if they wanted to/had budget?
No. With 15 of the 18 cars in service that's only a 16.7% spare ratio. A couple of good fender benders and they'll have to cut service.

Every 10 to 12 minutes off-peak? Not even frequent service. That's pathetic. Could at least run every 8 minutes. It seems wrong that the streetcar (which they are trying to return to and subway standard is every 6 minutes minimum, and this LRT is every 12 minutes.
 
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Also - for 3 intersections? What time of day? Which day of the week? Which location?

In light traffic? Why would anyone ever expect the LRT to be faster than a streetcar in light traffic? The subway isn't - except perhaps a couple of spots with very long spacing, and or it's running diagonal, and cutting travel distance.
Brother, you mentioned it in this very thread, 75 minutes ago... Please at least do the bare minimum due diligence and Ctrl F....
 
Every 10 to 12 minutes? Not even frequent service. That's pathetic. The logic of extending the streetcars from 30 metres to 48 metres completely fails me. With the same capacity they'd have run every 6.3 to 7.5 minutes with 24 cars in service.

An utter disgrace!
Seconded... something that doubled its budget and cost $340 million per km just to run 10-12 off peak...
 

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