EnviroTO
Senior Member
I have a hard time believing it wont be in 2022.
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Richard White
Senior Member
I don't. Key stations are not yet completed. They are still pouring concrete at Kennedy while others still have more major works going on.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
More likely they discovered "concerns" or "errors" that need to be "tweaked".
smallspy
Senior Member
At least internally, Metrolinx is targeting September of 2022 for the line's opening.
And they seem at least confident enough about it to communicate that with the TTC.
Dan
And they seem at least confident enough about it to communicate that with the TTC.
Dan
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Therion
Senior Member
It does seem that the previous September 2020 and September 2021 timelines were disingenuous at best and actively misleading at worst. There's no way either of those was going to be met, underpinning delays and COVID or not. My guess for the line opening is late next year. Some stations are still pouring concrete, as people have pointed out. There's a tremendous amount of work that still needs to be done, and ML announcing Sept 2021 a while ago was ridiculous.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
People can still use it if the landscaping is not done. Seen many a subdivision or condo development where people move in as they are still working on the project.
turini2
Active Member
From my experience with the Crossrail project here in London - beware of substantial further delays, especially given that the rail + signalling isn't finished yet.
The moving block signalling for the tunnels combined with manual operation on the surface - ensuring that the "handshake" between the signalling systems works is super important - this caused the Muni Meltdown in San Francisco in 1998, and ensuring that 4 (yes, four!) digital signalling systems are all talking to each other and working correctly caused many delays in the Crossrail project.
That's before you get to other things off to the top of my head that could cause delays - especially when they are interdependent!
The moving block signalling for the tunnels combined with manual operation on the surface - ensuring that the "handshake" between the signalling systems works is super important - this caused the Muni Meltdown in San Francisco in 1998, and ensuring that 4 (yes, four!) digital signalling systems are all talking to each other and working correctly caused many delays in the Crossrail project.
That's before you get to other things off to the top of my head that could cause delays - especially when they are interdependent!
- linking Line 5 to TTC Transit Control and any issues you find there,
- ensuring all the CCTV cameras work and are pointed at the right things - OPTO cameras can very fiddly to get right!
- getting all of the new ticket machines and fare gates fully working,
- signing off fire safety certifications for significantly more Underground stations at once (when would be the last time that 14+ Underground stations opened all at once in Canada?),
- proper substantive testing and trial operations of all of the new rolling stock over all of the line,
- Hoping that contractors have not been lying through their teeth about contract progress so that Crosslinx pays them,
- Hoping that lower level staff have been correctly passing bad news to their bosses about delays/issues
- Getting Crosslinx, TTC, City and Metrolinx to correctly agree who's problem is who's - remember Ottawa's Confederation Line and who had the power of "final completion" signoff?
Ross W
New Member
Has anyone been watching LRT train testing anywhere along the east line from Kennedy to Leslie? Any Videos of Dynamic Testing?
Richard White
Senior Member
Nothing has been going on out my way (that I could see) for the past couple weeks. I am always out along Eglinton from Kennedy to Pharmacy.
KhalilHeron
Active Member
I've gone multiple times looking but they seem to have been in storage at science centre pretty much since a week or two after they arrived.
I went along the entire Scarborough section today and most of the work on the tracks and stops seems done at this point, but they're still working on the streetscape and getting around is an absolute nightmare if you're on foot or biking.
toronto647
Active Member
It is interesting no one is working on the above grade as many sections are incomplete. For example I passed by wynford to warden and the rubber part is not installed on the tracks yet and also the stations seem to have a lot of work cosmetically at least to finish. I assume those workers moved to the underground portion to start installing those track works? just speculating but pretty disappointed with the lack of progress on the above grade section the last couple weeks.
Imagine an informal strike taking place lol
Johnny Au
Superstar
Part 1 of 3 taken at Fairbank station on July 9, 2021:
They are all back side of the southeast entrance.
They are all back side of the southeast entrance.
smallspy
Senior Member
Nitpick: they're storing the cars in the tunnels west of Leslie, not at the Science Centre.
Until quite recently they were still doing some final work in a couple of locations along the line - for instance, there was a bit of remedial work required to the overhead at the Leslie portal, and the bridge over the West Don River only finished being waterproofed a week or two ago.
I had been told however that they had manged to slip out a do a bit of overnight testing in places, although as much as anything that was for checking clearances.
Dan
drum118
Superstar
KhalilHeron
Active Member
ah thanks didnt know that!
I mean there were a tonne of workers just mostly working on the sidewalks and such. Still, quite a few doing works around the tracks and stations over by ionview and birchmount so maybe they're working their way westward