Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[EastYorkTTCFan]

That's completely out to lunch. The Waterloo cars (14 of them - though they do have an option for another 14) aren't part of Metrolinx's 182. The total Flexity Freedom's on order is 196. Eglinton is 76. Finch West is 23 (Sheppard East is 35, and the SRT was 48). And of course the numbers include spares ...

They were a part of the order until Metrolinx started delaying things so Bombardier apparently negotiated with them to send them production cars to use as prototypes much like they did with the TTC. I still say most of this mess is due to City Council dragging it's feet on approval plus Metrolinx deciding to go against the original pan of opening the tunneled section first and then the outside section as it's completed. Metrolinx has no previous experience with building anything lie this project and they seem to be behind schedule yet aged at the same time and not know what they are doing. They have only ever had one meeting with the TTC executive council and still haven't figured anything out about how things will work regarding payment of fare, and operation of the Crosstown line. Meanwhile the TTC is on track with the TYSE despite having some construction delays.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Aren't the cars ordered for Crosstown from BBD the same as the ones for Waterloo? If so, and there is no need for a separate prototype for the Alstoms, why is ML so hung up on getting a separate prototype from BBD? (should be noted that BBD says their prototype is ready anyway).

Originally the prototype was supposed to be used in Waterloo but because Metrolinx kept making changes to the design it got delayed. All this is based I what I've figured out from post on twitter and her etc. From what I can tell Bombardier negotiated privately with Waterloo and Ion to deliver to them ahead of Metrolinx because Metrolinx was dragging it's feet and playing kindergarten games.

 

[robmausser]

If they are anything like the ones in Ottawa I hope they never see use in Toronto as they look hideous, the Ottawa ones are very box like and not streamlined like the Flexes are.

They look sleek to me...

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

They look sleek to me...

that's not the final product its a mock up for public display well they were building it.

That's what they look lie fully built. But hey to each their own I had someone on my youtube channle try and tell me that Montreal's new trains were nicer then the Toronto Rocket trains.

 

[Tuscani01]

that's not the final product its a mock up for public display well they were building it.



That's what they look lie fully built. But hey to each their own I had someone on my youtube channle try and tell me that Montreal's new trains were nicer then the Toronto Rocket trains.

What's the difference between the one you posted in the video and the mockup? They look identical to me, but the video you posted doesn't have the livery on it.

This video has a fully completed car, and it looks pretty sleek:

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

What's the difference between the one you posted in the video and the mockup? They look identical to me, but the video you posted doesn't have the livery on it.

Not sure but either way I still think they are ugly just like how someone on my youtube channel said the Toronto Rocket were ugly compared to montreal's Toy subway trains. To each their own, I just don't see what Metrolinx is trying to do other then waste taxpayer money for no reason at all, I've been against them since they were formed and it was announced they we taking over the building of the line and all of the Transit City projects that subsequently got canceled by a bunch of counselors in Toronto tah think they know everything because they were elected. Every single delay on this project is the Fault of Metrolinx and Toronto Council changing the plans they just want someone else to blame and Bombardier is convent because it's in the news because of the problem with the TTC order.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

What's the difference between the one you posted in the video and the mockup? They look identical to me, but the video you posted doesn't have the livery on it.

This video has a fully completed car, and it looks pretty sleek:

When I saw the fully assembled car testing a few months back, I honestly thought they hadn't installed the exterior paneling yet. It's boxy, and those slats above the window make it look unfinished.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Cameron from CodeRedTO has the surplus listed as follows in a tweet here:

Du they have enough should they extend the Eglinton West to YYZ, or even a Jane LRT?

 

[Cobra]

The surplus of LRV could be an incentive to green light more lines such as Waterfront LRT and use the rest for Eglinton Crosstown extension.

 

[robmausser]

The surplus of LRV could be an incentive to green light more lines such as Waterfront LRT and use the rest for Eglinton Crosstown extension.

Waterfront LRT will be TTC Streetcar gauge

 

[aquateam]

Waterfront LRT will be TTC Streetcar gauge

I thought it was supposed to be monorail

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

The sad thing is a co-worker of mine who is pro-LRT (and someone who is very against the SSE) has told me repeatedly that wait until the Eglinton LRT is done, it will change your mind about LRTs. This LRT is supposed to stand for how wonderful a properly done, modern, next-generation LRT can be.

..Yea I don't think that's gonna happen.

The shelters are separate topic from the LRT technology. Part of the same package sure, but shouldn't detract from the ability and performance of LRT technology.

 

[adrianaliu]

The shelters are separate topic from the LRT technology. Part of the same package sure, but shouldn't detract from the ability and performance of LRT technology.

the thing is anytime in the future that they wanna propose an LRT, eglinton will be looked at as an example. If it goes well and is well received then expect little resistance to future LRT construction. If the shelters end up being a problem, we wont hear the end of it when they propose another lrt line.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

the thing is anytime in the future that they wanna propose an LRT, eglinton will be looked at as an example. If it goes well and is well received then expect little resistance to future LRT construction. If the shelters end up being a problem, we wont hear the end of it when they propose another lrt line.

I could see how other lines might demand tunneled after seeing Eglinton's poor station shelters.

Or subway, in the case of Sheppard.

But Finch and K-W should be complete before Eglinton, Hurontario and Hamilton should be getting their own treatment, and the Waterfront should be lucky to get a cardboard box as a shelter.

Which LRT line is threatened by Eglinton having poor shelters, beyond Sheppard (which is getting subway or nothing, most probably nothing)?

 

[BurlOak]

the thing is anytime in the future that they wanna propose an LRT, eglinton will be looked at as an example. If it goes well and is well received then expect little resistance to future LRT construction. If the shelters end up being a problem, we wont hear the end of it when they propose another lrt line.

They will do the same as they did with Spadina LRT, Harbourfront LRT, and St. Clair LRT. If people complain, they will say they are not true LRT and the next one will be better.