News   Dec 05, 2025
Renowned Toronto-Born Architect Frank Gehry, Dead at 96
 981     5 
News   Dec 05, 2025
Finch West Line 6 Opens Sunday: It Could Use Some Improvements
 3K     9 
News   Dec 05, 2025
First Phase Advances at Multi-Tower Proposal on Steeles in Brampton
 570     0 

Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

T3G said:
I dearly hope this is not true! It's a transit line, not a military complex.
Click to expand...
While you are right, this does jive with Metrolinx's internal communications to their employees and their social media policy.

I have a friend who is going through the training now, and another who is set to start in a couple of weeks. I'll ask them what they've heard.

Dan

Edit: I should add that the TTC's own employee social media policy is also quite restrictive. Many large organizations take this kind of thing very, very seriously, and will mete out punishment if they feel that what is posted by the employee is particularly egregious.
 
ShonTron said:
I saw several 2-car trains in training in Scarborough today (Sunday), with the operator in the cab and the instructor just outside of it, similar to TTC streetcar divisional training. That I saw three trains on Eglinton all in training on a Sunday appears to be some good news.
Click to expand...
Expect to see much more of this in the coming weeks. If I recall correctly next board period starts in just 2 weeks on Sept 1st
 
Given the information above, and the progress on the Finch line, are we any closer to predicting an opening month? Or is it still just too early in the process?
 
Northern Light said:
Member 'Turtle' had this to say over at CPTDB:

View attachment 588710

I'm not familiar w/this member, but I imagine @smallspy is, so I can't speak to what weighting to afford the above.
Click to expand...
So, an update to this......

First off, training has only been going on for one week so far, with 2 classes - a morning class, and an evening class. Several people have already dropped out or have failed the various tests, as to be expected.

One of the classes has been read the proverbial riot act when it comes to social media postings. The other has not, and has been kindly asked to refrain with nothing more said or implied.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
So, an update to this......

First off, training has only been going on for one week so far, with 2 classes - a morning class, and an evening class. Several people have already dropped out or have failed the various tests, as to be expected.

One of the classes has been read the proverbial riot act when it comes to social media postings. The other has not, and has been kindly asked to refrain with nothing more said or implied.

Dan
Click to expand...
are theese exclusively senior ttc operators?
Cant imagine operation would that much more complex than systems the ttc uses
 
generalcanada said:
are theese exclusively senior ttc operators?
Cant imagine operation would that much more complex than systems the ttc uses
Click to expand...
They are people who signed up for it, based on seniority. I'm pretty sure some people are happy with driving their buses for the last 30 years. Others wanted to get into subways but positions aren't available. This opened up a couple years ago for sign ups and the selected ones are starting to train now.
 
generalcanada said:
are theese exclusively senior ttc operators?
Click to expand...
There are a variety of factors that are used to figure out who is allocated to which class, but seniority is one of them, yes. But they are not exclusively the most senior.

generalcanada said:
Cant imagine operation would that much more complex than systems the ttc uses
Click to expand...
It's more complex than anything that operates on the surface system, which is why it's been allocated a 30 day schedule.

Perhaps more importantly for those operators coming over from subway, all of the terminology is different even if the system or effect is the same. For those transferring from other surface modes, this is considered all-new.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
There are a variety of factors that are used to figure out who is allocated to which class, but seniority is one of them, yes. But they are not exclusively the most senior.


It's more complex than anything that operates on the surface system, which is why it's been allocated a 30 day schedule.

Perhaps more importantly for those operators coming over from subway, all of the terminology is different even if the system or effect is the same. For those transferring from other surface modes, this is considered all-new.

Dan
Click to expand...
Not saying I doubt you or that you're wrong but wouldn't any streetcar operators have a leg up on the competition considering their prior experience with operating LRV's on the road as well as operating Flexity LRV's (not saying the Outlooks and Freedoms are the exact same but they are from the same family). Obviously they still need to go through the same training course as everyone else but I would assume they would at the very least have an easier time getting the hang of things on the EC and FW than someone who is coming over from the bus or even subway divisions.
 
JSF-1 said:
Not saying I doubt you or that you're wrong but wouldn't any streetcar operators have a leg up on the competition considering their prior experience with operating LRV's on the road as well as operating Flexity LRV's (not saying the Outlooks and Freedoms are the exact same but they are from the same family). Obviously they still need to go through the same training course as everyone else but I would assume they would at the very least have an easier time getting the hang of things on the EC and FW than someone who is coming over from the bus or even subway divisions.
Click to expand...
It doesn't. If anything, those ops transferring from the subway have a leg up, although they are also having to deal with a nomenclature issue.

The signal system is a big part of the new lines, and there is no such existing system on the streetcar network - but it (especially the one on Eglinton) looks and operates similarly to that on the YUS. A substantial part of the training course covers the operation of it, as well as the various failure modes that can occur.

Dan
 
JSF-1 said:
Not saying I doubt you or that you're wrong but wouldn't any streetcar operators have a leg up on the competition considering their prior experience with operating LRV's on the road as well as operating Flexity LRV's (not saying the Outlooks and Freedoms are the exact same but they are from the same family). Obviously they still need to go through the same training course as everyone else but I would assume they would at the very least have an easier time getting the hang of things on the EC and FW than someone who is coming over from the bus or even subway divisions.
Click to expand...
really the only similarity between the Flexity Freedoms and Outlooks is the combined brake/throttle, the location of some controls in the cab, and maybe one interface screen. And since from what I have hear both lines are being operated from the same division they also have to learn the Alstom Citadis which has a completely different control interface than the Flexitys.
 
Not sure if it's relevant, but I saw a train parked on the platform at Mount Dennis station a few days ago.
 
Last edited:
Towered said:
Not sure if it's relevant, but I saw a train parked in the platform at Mount Dennis station a few days ago.
Click to expand...
Wouldn't it normally do that to change directions? I don't think it can pull through and change directions on tail tracks - which I don't think exist there yet.
 
Towered said:
Not sure if it's relevant, but I saw a train parked on the platform at Mount Dennis station a few days ago.
Click to expand...
Considering the numbers of cars that have been used on the line over the past weeks and months, and the amount of operators in training right now, it would be more reportable if you hadn't seen a car on the platform there.

Dan
 
You must log in or register to post here.

Back
Top