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[Rainforest]

I think that right underneath Weston Rd just north of Eglinton would be a good place for the terminus. The Jane Bus going northbound could turn right on Eglinton, then hit the station, and then go up Weston until it meets up again with Jane.

Option B is make a bigger terminus station on the northeast corner of Eglinton Flats park. That way you can have a proper bus terminal for both the Jane bus and whatever buses are running along the western part of Eglinton West (MT buses come to mind). Under this scenario, there would be a station between the rail tracks and Black Creek Dr to serve the rail link.

Option B is preferable, but they might not have funding at this point.

If the terminus is at Weston Rd., they might split the Jane bus route. Half of buses will run straight to Bloor, the other half will loop (Jane southbound - Weston - Eglinton westbound - Jane northbound) to connect to the LRT terminus.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Hence, if the station is 90 m long and located in the middle, the distance from the platform end to either Weston or GO is 55 m.

If they follow the original EA's specs for a typical station, the station would be 150 m long, but with 90 m finished and the rest roughed in (for expansion).

The initial setup would be as shown in yellow for a 3-car train. The remaining roughed-in sections could be converted for 4-car or 5-car trains, as needed in the future. (150 m is close the the length of a HRT subway station.)

 

[nfitz]

If they follow the original EA's specs for a typical station, the station would be 150 m long, but with 90 m finished and the rest roughed in (for expansion).

The original EA spec is 60 m finished, 30 metres reserved and roughed in for expansion, and the other 60 metres being for a service area that isn't for expansion. You can see this in the image you posted.

From the recent Metrolinx meeting, the plan has at least shifted so that 90 m is now finished. But there's been no indication the station box will be bigger.

 

[W. K. Lis]

The original EA spec is 60 m finished, 30 metres reserved and roughed in for expansion, and the other 60 metres being for a service area that isn't for expansion. You can see this in the image you posted.

From the recent Metrolinx meeting, the plan has at least shifted so that 90 m is now finished. But there's been no indication the station box will be bigger.

I stand corrected. The original EA is for 2-car trains as shown in the image.

 

[Dan416]

Wait a second if Eglinton were POP (as planned in TC) and the SRT section were to remain fare paid area that doesn't really work...

 

[SlickFranky]

Wait a second if Eglinton were POP (as planned in TC) and the SRT section were to remain fare paid area that doesn't really work...

Get used to hearing ideas to resolve this issue...the legacy streetcar lines are going POP too. The 504 should take care of the details well before the ECLRT comes online though. It's got every possible type of zone interaction, and massive pent-up demand...a perfect place to refine these upgrades.

But really, the TTC should get on this stuff NOW. All streetcars lines should be phasing into POP operation, starting yesterday. I know they see every fare-evading lowlife as lost funds, but those 2 traffic-light-cycle loading periods downtown are what's really killing them.

 

[drum118]

I think that right underneath Weston Rd just north of Eglinton would be a good place for the terminus. The Jane Bus going northbound could turn right on Eglinton, then hit the station, and then go up Weston until it meets up again with Jane.

Option B is make a bigger terminus station on the northeast corner of Eglinton Flats park. That way you can have a proper bus terminal for both the Jane bus and whatever buses are running along the western part of Eglinton West (MT buses come to mind). Under this scenario, there would be a station between the rail tracks and Black Creek Dr to serve the rail link.

Hello!!! do you know what the traffic is like on Weston Rd between Eglinton and Jane St is like??? How much more time will riders have to spend or waste doing this plan??

Bottom line, A station between the Rail Line and Weston Rd and the terminus until Ford is out of off at Jane St. There is no need for a station at Black Creek unless you are going to built a huge parking structure there.

You need to see this section and intersection in action at peak time to say its a dumb idea.

Speed, speed is for who?? Long distance haulers will not support it nor do the have high numbers.

Metrolinx wants to cut the $$ cost related to stations as they think like GO personal.....OH!! they are GO personal who have blinders on and cannot see outside the tunnel vision.

Most of the planners have no real feel or look at the existing route to see what riders will have to deal with by placing station further apart than they should be. Hey it looks great on my map!!

You need to think about the street life and what there now as to what your goal is. If you don't, the street could die.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Hello!!! do you know what the traffic is like on Weston Rd between Eglinton and Jane St is like??? How much more time will riders have to spend or waste doing this plan??

Bottom line, A station between the Rail Line and Weston Rd and the terminus until Ford is out of off at Jane St. There is no need for a station at Black Creek unless you are going to built a huge parking structure there.

You need to see this section and intersection in action at peak time to say its a dumb idea.

Speed, speed is for who?? Long distance haulers will not support it nor do the have high numbers.

Metrolinx wants to cut the $$ cost related to stations as they think like GO personal.....OH!! they are GO personal who have blinders on and cannot see outside the tunnel vision.

Most of the planners have no real feel or look at the existing route to see what riders will have to deal with by placing station further apart than they should be. Hey it looks great on my map!!

You need to think about the street life and what there now as to what your goal is. If you don't, the street could die.

If a manned station will be used for Weston Road, a unmanned or shared station with the possible GO station could be used for Black Creek.

 

[sixrings]

Black Creek: no need for a station exactly at the Eglinton / Black Creek intersection. One station (underground) should be between Weston Rd and the rail line, with access to both. Another station (on surface) could be located east of Black Creek, somewhere between it and the portal, for a better access to the parks.

I dont believe in a station for the sake of a Park.... Why not just NOT have the station and move the park to the jane and eglinton park lands...

 

[interchange42]

On April 26, 2011 at St. Clement's School, TTC Chair Karen Stintz hosted a public meeting on the Eglinton‐Scarborough Crosstown LRT project. In attendance were Ontario’s Minister of Transportation Kathleen Wynne, Toronto City Councillors Joe Mihevc, Josh Colle, Jaye Robinson, and Josh Matlow, and representatives from the TTC and Metrolinx. Following the election of Mayor Rob Ford, negotiations between the City of Toronto, Metrolinx and the Province resulted in a new transit plan for the City of Toronto called the “Toronto Transit Plan.” The purpose of this meeting was to provide an update on the status of the Eglinton LRT project.

Text by Michael Ventresca

Updated EA needed.

One of the most significant changes from the previous Transit City plan was the conversion of the Eglinton LRT to an entirely underground line from Black Creek Drive to Kennedy Road. Jack Collins, Vice-President of Rapid Transit Implementation for Metrolinx, indicated that this change will require an update to the previously approved environmental assessment for the project. The midtown tunnel (orange, in the image below) and upgraded Scarborough RT (blue) aspects have been approved through a prior EA, so only the new tunnel portions of the line (red) will be reviewed. Track alignment, station, and yard reconfigurations will also be considered during the EA update. Metrolinx estimates the EA update process will take 12 to 16 months to complete.

Construction begins July 2011

Anna Pace, Director of Strategic Partnerships for the TTC, indicated that construction of the launch site for the tunnel boring machines will begin in July 2011. Computer renderings of the launch site, to be located just east of Black Creek Drive, were revealed. Pace noted that additional renderings will be prepared for other aspects of the construction. Tunnelling of the midtown tunnel is anticipated to begin in mid-2012 using the tunnel boring machines ordered in July 2010. This work follows geotechnical studies that have been ongoing since 2010.

Community Consultation

The TTC emphasized its intention to conduct substantial community consultation in order to flag and address issues related to construction before they become problems. Community Offices are planned along various portions of the line which will provide information about the project to the public. This extensive consultation is likely meant to avoid the problems that occurred with the St. Clair streetcar construction.


LRT vehicles

The light rail vehicles ordered in June 2010 will be used on the Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown LRT. The design of the vehicles is to be completed by December 2011.

For more information on the Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown LRT project, review the April 26, 2011 presentation slides or contact EglintonTransit@ttc.ca.

 

[Register123]

I don't know about anyone else, but the fact that now more EA's have to be done scares me. Why would they start tunneling in an area that needs additional EA instead of starting where it's already been approved?

 

[Markster]

I don't know about anyone else, but the fact that now more EA's have to be done scares me. Why would they start tunneling in an area that needs additional EA instead of starting where it's already been approved?

They have the EA in hand for a good chunk of the line. There's no reason not to start digging.
What's the worst case scenario? If the supplemental EAs get delayed significantly, they'll still finish the original underground part in time. If things got really dicey, they could even open the line to riders in a phased approach, starting service on the central portion while they continue to work on the rest.

 

[Register123]

But if you read the above carefully they are not beginning to tunnel in the central portion that has the final EA, they are starting at blackcreek which needs updated EA's as it was not initially supposed to be underground.

 

[Asterix]

But if you read the above carefully they are not beginning to tunnel in the central portion that has the final EA, they are starting at blackcreek which needs updated EA's as it was not initially supposed to be underground.

But if you read the original TC plans from http://www.toronto.ca/involved/proj...n_lrt/pdf/2009-11-20_display_panels_part1.pdf (slides 10 and 11) carefully, they are beginning to tunnel in the central portion that has the final EA. They are starting at Black Creek which does not need updated EAs as it was initially supposed to be the start of the central underground portion.

 

[Tewder]

This is all very exciting. Progress at last! I hope this will be stimulus for other subway/LRT lines.