Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[Palma]

Two Crosstown related motions:
1. Councillor Mihevic has moved a motion to expedite Crosstown West and East to be complete by 2021.
2. TTC Chair and Councillor Carroll has moved a motion to connect the ECLRT to FWLRT via Pearson Airport.

#1 how is it possible for the east and west to be completed at the same time as the middle portion yet Metrolinx did not insist on contractor starting station construction in the West end when the tunnelling got to at least Eglinton west
#2. So that means Crosstown west connects to Pearson and then LRT is able to continue along same tracks along Finch or does it mean that passengers will be able to get off at Pearson and easily transfer to Finch from the Crosstown West?
3. Why not pass a notion to work on stations 24/7?

 

[WislaHD]

#2. So that means Crosstown west connects to Pearson and then LRT is able to continue along same tracks along Finch or does it mean that passengers will be able to get off at Pearson and easily transfer to Finch from the Crosstown West?

Would make things a lot easier operationally if they cut the route short.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

#1 how is it possible for the east and west to be completed at the same time as the middle portion yet Metrolinx did not insist on contractor starting station construction in the West end when the tunnelling got to at least Eglinton west?

Probably because surface stop construction hasn't started, and will take about the same time vs. underground stations?

 

[robmausser]

Just like the motion to make the Scarborough subway and cancel Sheppard east and Finch the first time. Until I see a concrete plan with
boots on the ground and over 60% complete, all that has happened are politicians blowing hot air.

At least ECLRT WEST and EAST have an EA already complete from Transit City days.

Will just need some updating.

 

[W. K. Lis]

At least ECLRT WEST and EAST have an EA already complete from Transit City days.

Will just need some updating.

Would like to have some amendments made to Eglington West though. Because of the traffic congestion in the Martin Grove & Eglinton West intersection, it should be better that the light rail right-of-way go below grade at that intersection, with a stop at the southwest corner. It could continue west of Martin Grove at grade on the south side to at least the East Mall, but preferably on the south side of Eglinton to Renforth, so that residents on the south side of Eglinton have better access. The north side of Eglinton is mostly the 401/427 intersection.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

Would like to have some amendments made to Eglington West though...

Amendments may be required for both for "optimization" along their entirety (less stops, more grade separation). Still no leaks or indications what this will look like.

 

[Juan_Lennon416]

#2. So that means Crosstown west connects to Pearson and then LRT is able to continue along same tracks along Finch or does it mean that passengers will be able to get off at Pearson and easily transfer to Finch from the Crosstown West?

That's why the LRT plan is called 'Transfer City'

 

[TheTigerMaster]

That's why the LRT plan is called 'Transfer City'

Would you rather have all the lines interlined?

 

[Steve X]

Would like to have some amendments made to Eglington West though. Because of the traffic congestion in the Martin Grove & Eglinton West intersection, it should be better that the light rail right-of-way go below grade at that intersection, with a stop at the southwest corner. It could continue west of Martin Grove at grade on the south side to at least the East Mall, but preferably on the south side of Eglinton to Renforth, so that residents on the south side of Eglinton have better access. The north side of Eglinton is mostly the 401/427 intersection.

I doubt they'll end up on the south side. There is the bus ramp to the 427 and a private access to a cemetery between the 427 overpasses. That cemetery is mostly forgotten since it's from the 1800s. People access to there is rare but you can't have the tracks blocking the entrance. The bus ramp get's regular use but I think bus drivers are capable to check both sides.

Besides East Mall, there is no other stop along Eglinton that will benefit for the south side if Rangoon Stop doesn't get built. I don't expect much people would board from East Mall given that it's in the middle of no where. Rangoon is probably the better one to build. Anyone south of East Mall is probable better off taking the 111 East Mall to Martin Grove/Eglinton and boarding the LRT there. It is about 8-10 minute walk from the closest residential street to the East Mall stop. The small commercial complex there doesn't generate a lot of riders either. I wonder if Metrolinx would eliminate both stops and build the LRT on the north side.

 

[W. K. Lis]

I... I wonder if Metrolinx would eliminate both stops and build the LRT on the north side.

If no stops, then yes using the north side of Eglinton West between East Mall and Renforth would be fine.

 

[gweed123]

Two Crosstown related motions:
1. Councillor Mihevic has moved a motion to expedite Crosstown West and East to be complete by 2021.
2. TTC Chair and Councillor Carroll has moved a motion to connect the ECLRT to FWLRT via Pearson Airport.

What is defined as "Crosstown East"? Is that UTSC to Kennedy (aka the Scarborough-Malvern LRT), or UTSC to Don Mills?

 

[W. K. Lis]

What is defined as "Crosstown East"? Is that UTSC to Kennedy (aka the Scarborough-Malvern LRT), or UTSC to Don Mills?

Crosstown East is the UTSC to Kennedy (know in a former life as the Scarborough-Malern LRT).

 

[Zach6668]

#1 how is it possible for the east and west to be completed at the same time as the middle portion yet Metrolinx did not insist on contractor starting station construction in the West end when the tunnelling got to at least Eglinton west

It takes a lot of time to design complex underground stations. Construction has begun on the only one that has actually advanced well beyond 30% design (Keele).

 

[gweed123]

Crosstown East is the UTSC to Kennedy (know in a former life as the Scarborough-Malern LRT).

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks.

Interestingly, working backwards here, completion in 2021 with approximately 3 years of construction puts it up for tender and funding in: 2018. That will certainly be an interesting year, with so many projects starting up (RER, Hurontario LRT, Hamilton LRT, Confederation Line Phase II, and probably others) and a Provincial election to boot.

 

[Hopkins123]

If no stops, then yes using the north side of Eglinton West between East Mall and Renforth would be fine.

There shouldn't be any stops in-between. That existing stop in-between opposite Rangoon walkway is hardly ever used. Depending on how the stations are designed i.e. with secondary exits and lengthy platforms, it'd be hard to argue keeping any of the mid-block stops (Mulham, Russell/Eden Valley, Wincott or Lloyd Manor). Cut them all to save time and million$.