EnviroTO
Senior Member
I don't know how Toronto fits in to that comment. Rosedale and even Bridle Path don't seem that far out.
NA was the only continent that decided that rich people should live in the suburbs. Unsuprising than Chicago, LA, NYC, Mexico City, Guadalajara and Toronto have the worst commutes on the planet.
I'm wondering, have you ever left Canada? Do you have first-hand experience to back up your statement? Surprisingly, place like Paris and Milan have worst commutes than Toronto and any other NA city (Mexico City excluded, off course).
I'm wondering, have you ever left Canada? Do you have first-hand experience to back up your statement? Surprisingly, place like Paris and Milan have worst commutes than Toronto and any other NA city (Mexico City excluded, off course).
NA was the only continent that decided that rich people should live in the suburbs. Unsuprising than Chicago, LA, NYC, Mexico City, Guadalajara and Toronto have the worst commutes on the planet.
Your drive by posts are redundant I was talking about places like Vaughan and Oakville. Now New York City, which had over 2000 murders less than 30 years ago. Mexico City has a terrible commute (I've done it) for different reasons but last time I checked, it's still North America.I don't know where to start with that ridiculous statement.
Let's look at Toronto, where the most expensive wealthy establishment neighbourhoods are within a 15 minute drive from downtown, the "New Money" Bridle Path not much further out than that.
Let's look at Manhattan, where penthouse condos and co-ops go for over $10M easy. Yes, there extremely wealthy suburbs in Long Island, Westchester County, Connecticut and New Jersey, but rich people live in the city too, at least on weekdays.
Mexico City's suburbs are full of slums on the mountain sides.
You really should think about the ridiculous things you say, den.
I don't know where to start with that ridiculous statement.
You really should think about the ridiculous things you say, den.
NA was the only continent that decided that rich people should live in the suburbs. Unsuprising than Chicago, LA, NYC, Mexico City, Guadalajara and Toronto have the worst commutes on the planet.
I don't know where to start with that ridiculous statement.
Let's look at Toronto, where the most expensive wealthy establishment neighbourhoods are within a 15 minute drive from downtown, the "New Money" Bridle Path not much further out than that.
Let's look at Manhattan, where penthouse condos and co-ops go for over $10M easy. Yes, there extremely wealthy suburbs in Long Island, Westchester County, Connecticut and New Jersey, but rich people live in the city too, at least on weekdays.
Mexico City's suburbs are full of slums on the mountain sides.
You really should think about the ridiculous things you say, den.
White flight is a term that originated in the United States, starting in the mid-20th century, and applied to the large-scale migration of whites of various European ancestries from racially mixed (generally poorer) urban regions to more racially homogeneous suburban or exurban regions
I don't know how Toronto fits in to that comment. Rosedale and even Bridle Path don't seem that far out.
I'm wondering, have you ever left Canada? Do you have first-hand experience to back up your statement? Surprisingly, place like Paris and Milan have worst commutes than Toronto and any other NA city (Mexico City excluded, off course).
That doesn't equate to rich people ever moving out to the suburbs. In those areas it may simply be that the people with least means live on the fringes and have to commute.
Hmm. I've left Canada and married a woman from Paris. As with many places, Paris can be a terrible commute if you insist on driving a car. The regional rail (RER) network is superb, the ability to live in an apartment in the city and take the bus or subway very good for such a huge population.
ECLRT is all about trying to get people out of their cars. In order to make that truly possible, we need the DRL or we need to spread out our core office locations (Great Gulf is taking that second 'virage' with their bold vision for their Don Roadway site.) For the east end, at least, a Don Mills LRT to connect with ECLRT at the OSC is such a no-brainer. Let's get cracking!
There's huge latent demand for better cycling infrastructure in Toronto period. Moreover, as all of the cities we compete against have come to realize that bike lanes are a relatively cheap, but effective means of getting more people safely through a given corridor. Even many cities with conservative Mayors realize this and this silly discussion comes off as very Rob Ford Toronto 2010.Yes I do care even though I am pretty sure that I won't be allowed to drive anywhere in 10 years. I care because the bike lanes are a terrible waste of money tossed onto the pyre of trendy political correctness.
Yes I do care even though I am pretty sure that I won't be allowed to drive anywhere in 10 years. I care because the bike lanes are a terrible waste of money tossed onto the pyre of trendy political correctness.
The advent of car culture was a failure that had its social as well as political costs. Generation Y and Z will have less kids and need less space, so that's part of it too.An argument could easily be made that the auto-centric culture of the past 50 years was a mere trend and a failed experiment.
I think that this resistance to the auto-centric culture is a recognition that building our cities for the car is unsustainable (both socially and from a transportation point of view) and that we're better off designing our cities for more efficient modes of transport (walking, biking, etc...), like we've been doing for thousands of years.
I know you're kidding, but it doesn't necessarily take any space away from cars:
http://thecrosstown.ca/the-project/stations-and-stops/bayview-station
That's the current plan for bayview station. You can see there's room for bike racks in front of the station.
That's just replacing a McDonalds.
There should probably be a bike parking station at Eglinton station too, maybe where the abandon bus bays are now.