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Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

The reasons I like the Eg West LRT extension:

1. It goes to the airport & connects the Mississauga busway
2. There are apartment clusters on Eglinton along the way
3. Connects to all the NS bus lines & roads in Etobicoke
4. Richview corridor (the green space beside Eglinton) will likely be developed in the future
5. From a network perspective, moves us towards the goal of a grid-like network of continuous long lines (the Jarrett Walker dream). It becomes even more of a crosstown line in terms of being able to travel across the whole city.
6. It's cheap & fast to build since it's entirely on the surface and the expensive underground part is already being built.
7. Gives central Etobicoke better transit
 
doady said:
What is there for light rail on Eglinton West to connect to anyways? The airport? Mississauga Transitway? Mississauga? Seems like very low ridership potential. Eglinton East to connect to the lake is obviously a much better option.
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Everyone talking about Eglinton West should be aware of two things:

A) It should have been built, and it was cancelled DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. The hole filled in with cement by a spiteful government, and history will repeat itself on Sheppard East and Finch if the PC's are elected.

B) The Eglinton West will connect to the Renforth Gateway, which will connect with a 427 Rapidway and the Mississauga Transitway. Here is the Metrolinx profile on the area, lots of good stats for everyone to go to town with.
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
And it's cheaper then UPX, which will fail because it's expensive.
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Metrolinx is putting way too much effort into researching the right price for the UPX for it to fail. People will shell out for a faster, more convenient ride. A large share of the ridership will be higher income earners. but if they take the UPX instead of a personal car or taxi, aren't we still achieving the main transportation objective? No one at Metrolinx or in the government will admit it, but it is designed for these people, because they are frequent flyers which is expensive. As morally bad as it looks, it won't prohibit a regular Joe from taking it for an annual or semi-annual trip. It's just numbers people.

Eglinton West to downtown will take a bit longer and require a transfer or two, and that's okay for those of us that only want to pay TTC fare instead of UPX fare. It will also be fairer for those that don't fly at all and commute to/from work near the airport.
 
DonValleyRainbow said:
Everyone talking about Eglinton West should be aware of two things:

A) It should have been built, and it was cancelled DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. The hole filled in with cement by a spiteful government, and history will repeat itself on Sheppard East and Finch if the PC's are elected.

B) The Eglinton West will connect to the Renforth Gateway, which will connect with a 427 Rapidway and the Mississauga Transitway. Here is the Metrolinx profile on the area, lots of good stats for everyone to go to town with.
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I had no idea that Renforth was one of the mobility hubs TJ Opootertoot is always talking about. Why is no one talking about this publicly. Someone needs to bring it up at the debates.
 
denfromoakvillemilton said:
I had no idea that Renforth was one of the mobility hubs TJ Opootertoot is always talking about. Why is no one talking about this publicly. Someone needs to bring it up at the debates.
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While we're at it:

The airport will be a hub connection for the UPX, Eglinton Crosstown, Finch West LRT (future phase) and the future 427 rapid transit.

Jane-Eglinton would also be a big mobility hub, connecting to the Jane LRT which would also have been under construction, if Transit City wasn't cancelled.
 
DonValleyRainbow said:
While we're at it:

The airport will be a hub connection for the UPX, Eglinton Crosstown, Finch West LRT (future phase) and the future 427 rapid transit.

Jane-Eglinton would also be a big mobility hub, connecting to the Jane LRT which would also have been under construction, if Transit City wasn't cancelled.
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Man... It's like there are two different plans going forth. This would have been a huge game changer for the that corridor between Jane-Sheppard and the Crosstown. I also see Kennedy in Scarborough as a mobility hub but not Ellesmere or Lawrence East/Kingston.
 
DonValleyRainbow said:
Metrolinx is putting way too much effort into researching the right price for the UPX for it to fail. People will shell out for a faster, more convenient ride. A large share of the ridership will be higher income earners. but if they take the UPX instead of a personal car or taxi, aren't we still achieving the main transportation objective? No one at Metrolinx or in the government will admit it, but it is designed for these people, because they are frequent flyers which is expensive. As morally bad as it looks, it won't prohibit a regular Joe from taking it for an annual or semi-annual trip. It's just numbers people.

Eglinton West to downtown will take a bit longer and require a transfer or two, and that's okay for those of us that only want to pay TTC fare instead of UPX fare. It will also be fairer for those that don't fly at all and commute to/from work near the airport.
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I agree, and I was also thinking that that you bring the DRL up to Weston and avoid flooding the YUS. Same with out east. and Don Millls. I feel the UPX is for the upper class and people like us, like you said, could benefit from a line That actually connect all of Toronto from border.
 
doady said:
What is there for light rail on Eglinton West to connect to anyways? The airport? Mississauga Transitway? Mississauga? Seems like very low ridership potential. Eglinton East to connect to the lake is obviously a much better option.
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WislaHD said:
The airport is a large employment area. Further, Eglinton West would intercept a lot of busy feeder bus routes and bus routes are the big contributor to subway ridership levels generally speaking.
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denfromoakvillemilton said:
SMLRT should have been built too. We both know this should have been a subway. Would have shut so many people up...

Bingo. And it's cheaper then UPX, which will fail because it's expensive.
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DonValleyRainbow said:
Everyone talking about Eglinton West should be aware of two things:

A) It should have been built, and it was cancelled DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. The hole filled in with cement by a spiteful government, and history will repeat itself on Sheppard East and Finch if the PC's are elected.

B) The Eglinton West will connect to the Renforth Gateway, which will connect with a 427 Rapidway and the Mississauga Transitway. Here is the Metrolinx profile on the area, lots of good stats for everyone to go to town with.
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Shout of thanks out to Doady for that bit of sarcasm....and to those who refuted it like he meant it! ;)
 
JasonParis said:
This also allows for super-easy ROW construction/execution without reducing traffic lanes permanently.
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With the available Richview corridor and the huge mandatory underground section, I don't understand why Toronto is bothering with LRT along Eglinton at all. It doesn't make any sense.
 
Assuming you're advocating for grade separation, it would cost a lot more money for which the ridership doesn't really justify.
 
Building in the Richview corridor might not be much more expensive than building in the street median. t least, that option should be explored and priced.
 
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