Towered
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Isn't the bus terminal under the flight path?
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TRONto
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I believe no. Go back through the thread and you'll find the diagram.
UtakataNoAnnex
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Here's hopefully a shortcut to that:
Toronto Coach Terminal Redevelopment | ?m | ?s | CreateTO
Helicopter flight paths are a major issue here. Heights are limited to a surprisingly low level from what I remember. The flight path only looks to affect the parking lot. The entire parking lot is below the flightpath's 162m elevation mark. Source: Page 14...
A Torontonian Now
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Still the tallest towers in downtown Ottawa to this day.
ProjectEnd
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It is not:
While this does fall outside of the flight paths, it's directly behind City Hall and will therefore be subject to the ridiculous 'view corridor' policies enacted in 2018:
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So while Shibuya Hikare:
Source: Wikipedia
Or Hysan Place:
Source: Wikipedia
Are both very cool ideas, Planning is likely not going to evaluate this site along those ambitious lines.
turini2
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I wrote a proposal to the TTC Board when the office consolidation went to the Board a couple of years ago - proposing that they should sell the site to a private developer for development, albeit signing a long lease for a new office building.
In orange, the perfect site for a modern, consolidated, office building for the City to use - by TTC, City Transportation and other relevant bodies like Toronto Parking Authority. In my mind, benefits included that the site is already (or was!) connected to the TTC corporate networks, had a PATH connection to the Subway and isn't far from City Hall. I proposed restoring the heritage building for use as the office lobby, as well as for the lost property counter and customer service desks currently at Davisville. They'd also be space for a larger Transit Control - given future LRT and Subway lines.
In blue - a site sold to the same private developer - I thought this would likely be institutional (given Sick Kids is very close by, or one of the Universities) or another office development, given that people probably don't want to live under a helicopter flight path.
In red - I thought that this would be a good site for a small TTC museum, integrated into the podium of the building. Toronto probably wouldn't be able to justify a giant London-esque transport museum - but I thought a modest "streetcar barn" for heritage vehicles, some displays around them and other ancillary facilities (small lecture theatre, room for temporary exhibitions) would probably be okay - especially if they pay a peppercorn rent on the building. I proposed acquiring the end building on Dundas St, so that the museum would have a Dundas street frontage - using it for an entrance, shop, cafe etc. It would only require 70m of new streetcar trackage for the heritage fleet of streetcars to use the building as their home.
Obviously didn't hear anything, but it was a fun little project. Will be interesting to see where this site goes - would be a shame to see it sit vacant for a long period.
In orange, the perfect site for a modern, consolidated, office building for the City to use - by TTC, City Transportation and other relevant bodies like Toronto Parking Authority. In my mind, benefits included that the site is already (or was!) connected to the TTC corporate networks, had a PATH connection to the Subway and isn't far from City Hall. I proposed restoring the heritage building for use as the office lobby, as well as for the lost property counter and customer service desks currently at Davisville. They'd also be space for a larger Transit Control - given future LRT and Subway lines.
In blue - a site sold to the same private developer - I thought this would likely be institutional (given Sick Kids is very close by, or one of the Universities) or another office development, given that people probably don't want to live under a helicopter flight path.
In red - I thought that this would be a good site for a small TTC museum, integrated into the podium of the building. Toronto probably wouldn't be able to justify a giant London-esque transport museum - but I thought a modest "streetcar barn" for heritage vehicles, some displays around them and other ancillary facilities (small lecture theatre, room for temporary exhibitions) would probably be okay - especially if they pay a peppercorn rent on the building. I proposed acquiring the end building on Dundas St, so that the museum would have a Dundas street frontage - using it for an entrance, shop, cafe etc. It would only require 70m of new streetcar trackage for the heritage fleet of streetcars to use the building as their home.
Obviously didn't hear anything, but it was a fun little project. Will be interesting to see where this site goes - would be a shame to see it sit vacant for a long period.
Northern Light
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Article in today's Star on the future of the site...........it really says next to nothing..........it's blue-skying by Councillor Layton, Steven Fong from the Daniels Faculty of Architecture; and the chair of Heritage Toronto.
Layton comes closest to saying something......"Affordable Housing"
While Fong mentions Wychwood Barns and the idea of Artscape.
But there is no substantive detail, nor any discussion of the process, presumably via CreateTo to get to a tangible proposal.
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Layton comes closest to saying something......"Affordable Housing"
While Fong mentions Wychwood Barns and the idea of Artscape.
But there is no substantive detail, nor any discussion of the process, presumably via CreateTo to get to a tangible proposal.
After 90 years as a vital transit hub, what’s to become of the Toronto Coach Terminal?
Three Torontonians — a city leader, architect and heritage director —share their dream for the Toronto Coach Terminal
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The Preservationist
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I would really like to see these 2 lots and the one directly north become a meaningful mixed development meaning residential, retail/restaurant and commercial with a heritage portion. A TTC museum that Turini2 suggested is a very good idea.Article in today's Star on the future of the site...........it really says next to nothing..........it's blue-skying by Councillor Layton, Steven Fong from the Daniels Faculty of Architecture; and the chair of Heritage Toronto.
Layton comes closest to saying something......"Affordable Housing"
While Fong mentions Wychwood Barns and the idea of Artscape.
But there is no substantive detail, nor any discussion of the process, presumably via CreateTo to get to a tangible proposal.
After 90 years as a vital transit hub, what’s to become of the Toronto Coach Terminal?
Three Torontonians — a city leader, architect and heritage director —share their dream for the Toronto Coach Terminal
Northern Light
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Well, we're past blue-skying.....
A report to the March 7th meeting of CreateTO has recommended this site go to an REOI to the non-profit sector.
From the report:
A report to the March 7th meeting of CreateTO has recommended this site go to an REOI to the non-profit sector.
From the report:
turini2
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And from the presentation -
Northern Light
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An enlarged look at the massing concept:
HousingNowTO
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Lots of updates at the CreateTO Board meeting yesterday -
HousingNowTO
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Link to the Staff Presentation in our Thread -
TRONto
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Sorry for my ignorance on this (I didn't see it in the articles I read), who will be responsible for running the affordable housing? Will it be the Toronto Public housing or a NGO?
Northern Light
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The suggestion is an REOI (Request for Expression of Interest) to the non-profit community. That is suggestive of an NGO.