Toronto Ace Hotel Toronto | 44.8m | 13s | Carbon Hospitality | Shim-Sutcliffe
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TDotTeen
New Member
This looks beautiful. Great massing, great detailing, and it looks like it'll be great materials. Can't wait!
Adjei
Senior Member
We need more of this type of building in this city.
Locals in attendance at last night's public consultation are still upset with the height. One man in particular could not hold his temper in that regard, and provided the evening with its "cray cray" nimby moment, while others more or less respectfully called for a decrease in the number of floors. Mr. Cray Cray claimed that not only had the building not been reduced in height since the last meeting, it had actually risen from 10 to 13 storeys. It hadn't; it's always been proposed at 13 storeys. (See post #9 in the thread).
A local architect with an office on Camden called the project beautiful and well thought out, and I'd have to agree with that, although residents were silent in response while some proponents attached to the development applauded.
Councillor Cressy predicts there will be some changes to the proposal. We shall see in a few months time what they may be. For now though, there may not be a more engagingly designed front entryway on any other proposal in town, and the relief on the exterior is extremely promising. Oh yeah, that and Shim Sutcliffe's entire back catalogue of gorgeous work.
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A local architect with an office on Camden called the project beautiful and well thought out, and I'd have to agree with that, although residents were silent in response while some proponents attached to the development applauded.
Councillor Cressy predicts there will be some changes to the proposal. We shall see in a few months time what they may be. For now though, there may not be a more engagingly designed front entryway on any other proposal in town, and the relief on the exterior is extremely promising. Oh yeah, that and Shim Sutcliffe's entire back catalogue of gorgeous work.
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stjames2queenwest
Senior Member
I work really close by and those same locals drive me crazy. They are always complaining about new condos. But every single one of them lives in a condo. It's absurd.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Wow, the entrance and lobby...makes you want to weep with joy.
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
AoD
The hypocrisy is breathtaking.
AoD
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The entrance feels like something out of star wars, reminds me of the stylizing they used for Tatooine.
ProjectEnd
Superstar
The lighting and ambiance in the night entrance sketch is very Syd Mead, which is to say, utterly gorgeous. Let's hope this helps raise the bar for development across the city (not holding my breath though, unfortunately).
arvelomcquaig
Active Member
13 storeys is too tall near Queen & Spadina?!! Who are these people? It's mind-boggling.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Thank you for bringing Syd Mead up - there was a familiarity I couldn't put a finger on.
AoD
Stunning entrance!
Armour
Senior Member
Are we going to see any higher quality, more realistic renderings for this project?
argus
Active Member
Yeah, one guy certainly did lose it - which was unfortunate as most residents were civil with their criticisms. Sadly, the outrageous ones set the tone.
I think the issue regarding the height (50m to the top of the mechanical box with no setbacks) was being highlighted because it was mentioned that the limit for this section of King-Spadina was 23 metres. Of course that limit was surpassed a long time ago. But what was not explained is the fact that the proposed height for the hotel simply reflects a prior OMB decision for height in the area, and not a failure of city planning or the councillor. People seemed upset that the city was somehow letting this go forward - even though this was a planning meeting for a proposal. The planner for the project also seemed in error by appearing to suggest that the city allowed Brant Park to be built up to the edge of the lane. That allowance was also the result of an OMB decision as Brant Park was turned down at the C of A for what amounted to being far too many requested minor variances.
Also, there was a criticism about the width of the lane between this proposed structure and Brant Park to the south. I believe that the architect mentioned the distance to be less than six metres. If that's so, that would be a pretty thin lane to serve for parking, servicing and garbage for all the buildings backing onto it. It will also be a surprise for those people who bought north-facing units in Brant Park that will face the hotel and who will get about an 18 foot distance between their window and the hotel wall next door.
As for the building itself, the architecture is very nice and I think it will look amazing on that corner, once finished.
I think the issue regarding the height (50m to the top of the mechanical box with no setbacks) was being highlighted because it was mentioned that the limit for this section of King-Spadina was 23 metres. Of course that limit was surpassed a long time ago. But what was not explained is the fact that the proposed height for the hotel simply reflects a prior OMB decision for height in the area, and not a failure of city planning or the councillor. People seemed upset that the city was somehow letting this go forward - even though this was a planning meeting for a proposal. The planner for the project also seemed in error by appearing to suggest that the city allowed Brant Park to be built up to the edge of the lane. That allowance was also the result of an OMB decision as Brant Park was turned down at the C of A for what amounted to being far too many requested minor variances.
Also, there was a criticism about the width of the lane between this proposed structure and Brant Park to the south. I believe that the architect mentioned the distance to be less than six metres. If that's so, that would be a pretty thin lane to serve for parking, servicing and garbage for all the buildings backing onto it. It will also be a surprise for those people who bought north-facing units in Brant Park that will face the hotel and who will get about an 18 foot distance between their window and the hotel wall next door.
As for the building itself, the architecture is very nice and I think it will look amazing on that corner, once finished.
smably
Senior Member
Beautiful entrance design, and I love the brick sidewalk paving. Pulls the design theme right out into the public realm.
ardwold1
Active Member
The design of the new Simeone shop at 92 Scollard in Yorkville shares some similarities to this, albeit on a small scale. Really wonderful.