Toronto 2150 Lake Shore | 215.75m | 67s | First Capital | Allies and Morrison

[dudedmc]

From the looks of it it seems they're leaving the original office main entrance intact. Use to be Del monte offices not long ago.
There's also a time capsule there which I think we had opened at the final day we were there, a celebration of sorts.

 

[Keyz]

November 9th, 2017

 

[dragontea]

https://www.insidetoronto.com/news-...ports-making-park-lawn-go-station-a-priority/

 

[Amare]

About time Grimes stepped up and put his foot down on this issue.

 

[jje1000]

https://www.insidetoronto.com/news-...ports-making-park-lawn-go-station-a-priority/

Nice to see this- the community and Grimes need to be heavily involved in the planning of this space.

I wonder if a community feedback framework used over at Honest Ed's would work.

 

[interchange42]

We've got a summary of the recent events on the front page now too.

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[Keyz]

November 15th, 2017

 

[DopeyFish]

IMO if First Capital does get a GO stop on site with assurances of the waterfront LRT making a nice little transit hub, I'd expect the Kraft land to get some more big towers in there. Though would likely be less condo-oriented and more rental/office if I were to guess, to mix with a large commercial focus on the ground floors. Mix with a K-12 school and Library and the towers would be used as the offset for building public essentials.

The only questions I keep asking myself is how many and how tall?

 

[67Cup]

Speaking as someone who lives in the immediate area, close enough that I can see a good portion of the site from one of our windows, I almost don't care how tall the towers are, nor, how many there are, within reason ... if building them makes the necessary community infrastructure possible.

There are wonderful things about this community already. I do not begrudge the future presence of those who will wish to join it. If the Kraft site is properly developed, HBS will become very special indeed.

 

[Amare]

IMO if First Capital does get a GO stop on site with assurances of the waterfront LRT making a nice little transit hub, I'd expect the Kraft land to get some more big towers in there. Though would likely be less condo-oriented and more rental/office if I were to guess, to mix with a large commercial focus on the ground floors.

This is the problem we currently have in Toronto. Developers act on "promises" and "assurances" that infrastructure projects will be built in the future, which will be able to accommodate all of the new density proposed, only to discover 10-20 years later that those "promises" are no where close to being built. Just take a look at Queens Quay East for further reference.

This is exactly what got HBS into this mess in the first place. It would be in best the interests of First Capital to not take those vague assurances as promises that anything will be built. They need a concrete plan from Metrolinx, the TTC, and the city, because anything asides from that will lead to a complete disaster.

 

[interchange42]

First Capital won't sit on the site, however, telling the City "we're not building until you provide infrastructure." They'll develop, whatever parts of it, when there's a business case for it (and once they have approvals for it of course). They have said that they'll help pay for a GO station here, and City Council did declare last week that the station is a priority for them…

Anyway, earlier today, here's how it all looked:

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[Midtown Urbanist]

Goodbye Mr Christie.

 

[Filip]

Goodbye Mr Christie.

Hmmm I should go grab a brick while I’m still here.

This is actually very sad to see. For someone who has lived in the PL/LS area for 21 years, it’s the end of an era.

 

[DopeyFish]

Hmmm I should go grab a brick while I’m still here.

This is actually very sad to see. For someone who has lived in the PL/LS area for 21 years, it’s the end of an era.

Well, it's worth the loss in my mind because those darn motels are gone.

Twas always a beacon in a wasteland.

 

[toaster29]

In terms of the towers coming in at Mr. Christies, the current infrastructure cannot sustain what is presently built. This doesn't include Eau du soleil, and some of the other buildings U/C. If you are going to add 5000+ units, you will have an area that is inhabitable. In the summer, try to bike on the trails, it is jammed packed. Anyone in the area has seen the last couple of weeks what any small disruption (Food Terminal strike, water leaks) will do to traffic (over 1 hour to get from Lake Shore to Gardiner onramp, 1.5 hours to Queensway). You can not just build towers everywhere there is available land. It should be office towers / institutional (perhaps a college or university campus?), but not residential. I won't likely continue to live if it continues to be this bad for much longer.