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See this plaza? This is on the south side of Eglinton between the soon-to-open Fairbank and Oakwood stations on Line 5...

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...so the plaza, which represents 1711 through 1741 Eglinton Avenue West, is naturally in play for rezoning. Shelborne Capital is talking 39 storeys here, the design is by Kirkor.

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More deets can be found in a front page story here, and the database file is attached at the top of the page!

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Commentary:

Sigh, Kirkor.............the tower part is almost fine........except for the absolutely goofy off-set massing of 3 sections. Why? It will drive up costs of construction without adding an iota of aesthetic value. Also lose the (I hope it's faux) juliet balconies, what a style clash.

The podium...........4 colours? Really? No.... nix that, use the almost terracotta colour in the last render above as the sole colour of the podium, and use that cladding as the sole style of cladding for the podium, it will look much, much better.

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Under no circumstances should the City be accepting a worthless, leftover 'Pops' in lieu of park space here, regardless of what Queen's Park says.

Instead, money should be directed to expand Senator Peter Rosa Park, just to the south of this proposal.

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It's literally only one lot wide:

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It can be expanded one lot a time, on either the Vaughan or Greyton frontages very cost effectively, boosting in size until there's room to do something with it!

The City has sufficient parkland acquisition money to cover any over dedication, or to add to same.

Let's not add another useless space, let's add to a useless space to make it useful!

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Back to that useless POPs, I would prefer to see added ft2 for at-grade retail here, there's enough room to create some quality space.

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The height ask has sufficient precedent.

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Thanks all around for info! Not surprised and see this as another example of how blessed this intersection is with connections and potential! I would have no problem living here.
 
Ahh, this area is my old stomping grounds. Had some fond memories from days past at the Maria A. Shchuka library next doors.

I reckon Shelborne are here to upzone this property and eventually JV or flip it to a developer.
I too have fond memories of going to Maria A. Shchuka Library back when it was called York Public Library (the old library that was demolished to make way for the current library).

Here's hoping this development would force other plazas on Eglinton to be upzoned with condos about a hundred metres tall so as not to cast a shadow over Walter Saunders Memorial Park to the north.
 
Once again, why are we building in curb cuts and garage entrances onto our avenues for another 50 years?
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I don't think I have to belabor the negatives of vehicle access directly off Eglinton, but it does seem a viable alternative is present.
The Library and apartment complex to the west seem to already have a runt of a laneway, wide enough for public usage that could easily be punched through during redevelopment to serve this towers garage via Northcliffe Blvd
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I hope the city pushes for this, as it seems the idea of that laneway providing access is already in the developers mind?
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Once again, why are we building in curb cuts and garage entrances onto our avenues for another 50 years?
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I don't think I have to belabor the negatives of vehicle access directly off Eglinton, but it does seem a viable alternative is present.
The Library and apartment complex to the west seem to already have a runt of a laneway, wide enough for public usage that could easily be punched through during redevelopment to serve this towers garage via Northcliffe Blvd
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I hope the city pushes for this, as it seems the idea of that laneway providing access is already in the developers mind?
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I agree w/your premise, but I understand how we got here on this one:


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If you look at the property lines, in order to deliver a laneway at the rear (connected to the existing one coming in from Northcliffe, you require some of that parking lot, which is owned by the Toronto Catholic District School Board.

I'm not sure how enthused the Board would be to sell any part of that lot, but neither the developer nor the City can compel same.

You might be able to squeeze by with the land at the rear of 659 Northcliffe, but that would require the owner there, 'The Toronto Housing Co" to sign off.

Curiously, the laneway use to be on the north side of the building here, aligning w/the 'future laneway' as you'd expect, but the City allowed it to be relocated to the south to facilitate this affordable housing building which is here now.

 
That's disappointing, already so much pavement but none of it the 'right' pavement to prevent building in more mistakes.

The province should accept that when schools in highly urbanized areas are rebuilt, if parking is to be provided, then it must be underground. Parking as a benefit to staff should not be free, but paid, at the very least, at-cost, if not market value, which would help limit the number of spaces required.

Regrettably, the province will not pay for underground parking for schools, the TCDSB, at least, does charge for staff parking, where the TDSB, last I heard, does not.

In this case, of course, the school is an old one, such that the choice to go underground would not be available until reconstruction anyway.

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The issue noted above speaks to my desire for more complete, proactive planning. We shouldn't be deciding where to put a laneway, or a new/expanded park on an ad hoc, case by case basis, unless there is a meritorious reason for an exception.

We ought to plan for the growth we want, and lay out the conditions under which it can take place, and we ought to ensure that required items are fully delivered at the same time as, or prior to the first major development in an area/block being complete.

Sadly, that's just not the way we do things, for the most part, right now.

But it makes for sub-optimal developments that can actually obstruct desired outcomes.

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We not only need to be proactive, we need to be bold, over timid, and we need also need to get value-for-money so that we can stretch dollars to make additional investments and provide better transit, more affordable housing, larger parks, additional childcare etc.
 

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