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The No-State Solution

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Failure to solve Palestinian question empowers Iran

July 23, 2006

BY MARK STEYN
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Afew years back, when folks talked airily about "the Middle East peace process" and "a two-state solution," I used to say that the trouble was the Palestinians saw a two-state solution as an interim stage en route to a one-state solution. I underestimated Islamist depravity. As we now see in Gaza and southern Lebanon, any two-state solution would be an interim stage en route to a no-state solution.

In one of the most admirably straightforward of Islamist declarations, Hussein Massawi, the Hezbollah leader behind the slaughter of U.S. and French forces 20 years ago, put it this way:

"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."

Swell. But, suppose he got his way, what then? Suppose every last Jew in Israel were dead or fled, what would rise in place of the Zionist Entity? It would be something like the Hamas-Hezbollah terror squats in Gaza and Lebanon writ large. Hamas won a landslide in the Palestinian elections, and Hezbollah similarly won formal control of key Lebanese Cabinet ministries. But they're not Mussolini: They have no interest in making the trains run on time. And to be honest, who can blame them? If you're a big-time terrorist mastermind, it's frankly a bit of a bore to find yourself Deputy Under-Secretary at the Ministry of Pensions, particularly when you're no good at it and no matter how lavishly the European Union throws money at you there never seems to be any in the kitty when it comes to making payroll. So, like a business that's over-diversified, both Hamas and Hezbollah retreated to their core activity: Jew-killing.

In Causeries du Lundi, Charles-Augustin Sainte-Beuve recalls a Parisian dramatist watching the revolutionary mob rampaging through the street below and beaming: "See my pageant passing!" That's how opportunist Arabs and indulgent Europeans looked on the intifada and the terrorists and the schoolgirl suicide bombers: as a kind of uber-authentic piece of performance art with which to torment the Jews and the Americans. They never paused to ask themselves: Hey, what if it doesn't stop there?

Well, about 30 years too late, they're asking it now. For the first quarter-century of Israel's existence, the Arab states fought more or less conventional wars against the Zionists, and kept losing. So then they figured it was easier to anoint a terrorist movement and in 1974 declared Yasser Arafat's PLO to be the "sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people," which is quite a claim for an organization then barely half-a-decade old. Amazingly, the Arab League persuaded the U.N. and the EU and Bill Clinton and everyone else to go along with it and to treat the old monster as a head of state who lacked only a state to head. It's true that many nationalist movements have found it convenient to adopt the guise of terrorists. But, as the Palestinian "nationalist" movement descended from airline hijackings to the intifada to self-detonating in pizza parlors, it never occurred to their glamorous patrons to wonder if maybe this was, in fact, a terrorist movement conveniently adopting the guise of nationalism.

In 1971, in the lobby of the Cairo Sheraton, Palestinian terrorists shot Wasfi al-Tal, the prime minister of Jordan at point-blank range. As he fell to the floor dying, one of his killers began drinking the blood gushing from his wounds. Doesn't that strike you as a little, um, overwrought? Three decades later, when bombs went off in Bali killing hundreds of tourists plus local waiters and barmen, Bruce Haigh, a former Aussie diplomat in Indonesia, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, had no doubt where to put the blame. As he told Australia's Nine Network: "The root cause of this issue has been America's backing of Israel on Palestine."

Suppose this were true -- that terrorists blew up Oz honeymooners and Scandinavian stoners in Balinese nightclubs because of "the Palestinian question." Doesn't this suggest that these people are, at a certain level, nuts? After all, there are plenty of IRA sympathizers around the world (try making the Ulster Unionist case in a Boston bar) and yet they never thought to protest British rule in Northern Ireland by blowing up, say, German tourists in Thailand. Yet the more the thin skein of Palestinian grievance was stretched to justify atrocities halfway around the world, the more the Arab League big-shot emirs and European Union foreign ministers looked down from their windows and cooed, "See my parade passing!"

They've now belatedly realized they're at that stage in the creature feature where the monster has mutated into something bigger and crazier. Until the remarkably kinda-robust statement by the G-8 and the unprecedented denunciation of Hezbollah by the Arab League, the rule in any conflict in which Israel is involved -- Israel vs. PLO, Israel vs. Lebanon, Israel vs. [Your Team Here] is that the Jews are to blame.

But Saudi-Egyptian-Jordanian opportunism on Palestine has caught up with them: It's finally dawned on them that a strategy of consciously avoiding resolution of the "Palestinian question" has helped deliver Gaza, and Lebanon and Syria, into the hands of a regime that's a far bigger threat to the Arab world than the Zionist Entity. Cairo and Co. grew so accustomed to whining about the Palestinian pseudo-crisis decade in decade out that it never occurred to them that they might face a real crisis one day: a Middle East dominated by an apocalyptic Iran and its local enforcers, in which Arab self-rule turns out to have been a mere interlude between the Ottoman sultans and the eternal eclipse of a Persian nuclear umbrella. The Zionists got out of Gaza and it's now Talibanistan redux. The Zionists got out of Lebanon and the most powerful force in the country (with an ever-growing demographic advantage) are Iran's Shia enforcers. There haven't been any Zionists anywhere near Damascus in 60 years and Syria is in effect Iran's first Sunni Arab prison bitch. For the other regimes in the region, Gaza, Lebanon and Syria are dead states that have risen as vampires.

Meanwhile, Kofi Annan in a remarkable display of urgency (at least when compared with Sudan, Rwanda, Congo et al.) is proposing apropos Israel and Hezbollah that U.N. peacekeepers go in, not to keep the "peace" between two sovereign states but rather between a sovereign state and a usurper terrorist gang. Contemptible as he is, the secretary-general shows a shrewd understanding of the way the world is heading: Already "non-state actors" have more sophisticated rocketry than many EU nations; if Iran has its way, its proxies will be implied nuclear powers. Maybe we should put them on the U.N. Security Council.

So what is in reality Israel's first non-Arab war is a glimpse of the world the day after tomorrow: The EU and Arab League won't quite spell it out, but, to modify that Le Monde headline, they are all Jews now.

©Mark Steyn 2006
 
The most common strategy used by those who feel Israel is not obligated to do anything to help resolve the conflict is to quote extremists and claim, "see, even if we end the occupation..."
 
Well in Lebanon, anyway, Israel DID end the occupation...after which Hizbollah crossed an internationally recognised border to kill and kidnap Israeli citizens. I'd say that suggests there are influential people whose quarrel is with Israel's existence in any form and on any land.

My favourite is the description in some of the press of Hizbollah as a "resistance" movement. Whom have they been resisting for the last six years, exactly?
 
My favourite is the description in some of the press of Hizbollah as a "resistance" movement. Whom have they been resisting for the last six years, exactly?
Much like the IRA, once the struggle is over (i.e. Israel out of Lebanon) the goons and leaders of the movement have nothing to grasp, and soon realize that they're petty thugs, and thus, soon start up the struggle anew.
 
The occupation of southern Lebanon ended thanks in part of Hezbollah. But that's the problem when you let things fester for too long though... yeah, it's great that the occupation of Lebanon has ended but Hezbollah isn't going to just disappear the next day. This is the problem in Palestine as well, there is so much hatred of Israel that even if the occupation ends, it is unlikely that the violence will end soon. That is not an excuse to avoid ending the occupation, just the unfortunate reality. The reaction to oppression is not always logical or right. A good example is the 'reverse racism' of oppressed Blacks in America who mistrust all whites, the Nation of Islam, early Black Panther types. Not right, but understandable.
 
So you're saying, in other words, even if the Israelis gave up Palestine, they would still face bitter enemies out there sworn to destroy them?
 
blixa:

Notice that Israel had occupied South Lebanon for an extended period of time and failed to achieve such a goal. There is no reason to believe that it is capable of doing so now.

AoD
 
So you're saying, in other words, even if the Israelis gave up Palestine, they would still face bitter enemies out there sworn to destroy them?

Probably... until a new generation of Palestinians arrives that isn't born into refugee camps with bombs falling all around them, neighbour's houses being bulldozed and family members dying. The hatred won't evaporate the minute after a peace plan is reached.
 
If you're interested in making sure Palestinians aren't born into refugee camps, Israel pulling out of anywhere won't do the trick...you'd have to talk to Egypt and Jordan.
 
"Probably... until a new generation of Palestinians arrives that isn't born into refugee camps with bombs falling all around them, neighbour's houses being bulldozed and family members dying. The hatred won't evaporate the minute after a peace plan is reached."

...and then we'll all just get along?

As galvanizing as this issue tends to be, I think there is a serious mistake made when one side of the conflict is lionized, and the other villanized. Rarely is anything so simple.
 
Much of the hatred will remain as long as the affected populations live in unescapable poverty. I can't imagine if I were a young man, born into a refugee camp, seeing no hope, no employment, and no purpose in life, with such dispair I would like turn to violence.
 
Perhaps this thread sould be headed up "no solution". There hasn't been one for decades, and I don't really see one on the horizon at present.

As noted above it's difficult not to see how conditions of unreleting poverty and despair will drive some to violence. On the other hand you can't fault Israelis for wanting to be finally rid of people whose "solution" is to pitch missiles over the border. I certainly don't have the answer, and I don't see who does.
 

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