narduch
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Every year around the same time they throw out this story about 'renovating' Rogers Centre.
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yyzhyd
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Best renovation they could do is to remove the Ted Rogers statue and replace it with Robbie Alomar stat!
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ChesterCopperpot
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Isn't it just gone whilst they are doing all the work to the piping and waterproofing under the pavers?
ADRM
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Exactly. The article is basically just Shapiro whining about the fact that there's no plan to use taxpayer money to finance the capital costs of a multi-billion dollar conglomerate.
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But it's coming back.
It's funny that the only statue in front of a ball park is of an old white guy who happened to own the team, yet didn't care for the Jays, or baseball in general? Meanwhile most of the people who actually made a mark and fondly remembered by fans are Latino or Black.
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mikejb
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From what I heard the team engaged a large design firm to come up with new plans to revitalize the stadium. Two issues, the structure cannot be changed to create new openings, and the cost was insane. Beyond anything, they would want to spend on the building.
ChesterCopperpot
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Vladdy Junior statue?
TheKingEast
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Funny, huh? I'm hoping one day we see a Jose Bautista "bat flip" statue. A Doc Halliday statue. Joe's homerun against the phillies statue. There's a lot to pick from.
Sky Blue Skin
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A statue of Roberto Alomar spitting in John Hirshbeck's face would be a fitting gesture toward Rogers re their undignified renaming of the SkyDome.
Personally, I think the only players worthy of a statue outside of the Dome are Dave Stieb and Joe Carter. Alomar was probably the most God-gifted talent the Blue Jays organization has ever had (honourable mentions to Paul Molitor and Josh Donaldson), but his lack of humility and decency (namely, the incident I cited above) rubs me the wrong way. I would much rather honour Joe Carter. He is one of those guys that you can't help but fall in love with the second you meet or are introduced to him. The man is full of class and is one of the most extroverted, friendly and all-around good people I have ever witnessed in professional sports or elsewhere. I liken Alomar and Carter to Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clark. Gilmour was the more gifted, graceful athlete, but Clark was the heart and soul of the Leafs for a decade. He was such a clutch player and always gave his all whenever he stepped onto the ice. Watching him play got into your blood and filled you with a joy unlike anything you could ever imagine.
As for Joe Carter; he was no slouch in the statistics department. He always hit for poor average, but he was reliable for 30 home runs and 100 RBI each season. Alomar was a more complete player, but Carter undergirded those early 90s Jays teams with more than just his solid play. His presence was contagious and surely inspired his fellow teammates to be their best and to not acquiesce in the face of defeat or when hopes were diminished. What could possibly be more appropriate than a statue evoking Carter's legendary 1993 World Series, walk-off home run? Not only is that the most defining moment in Blue Jays history, it is probably the greatest in the entirety of Major League Baseball. I can't think of anything that can match it. Additionally, whatever the future holds for the Jays -- whether they win more World Series, down the road -- I can't imagine anything will ever parallel Carter's famous home run. It is a timeless event that will likely stand above all others in Jays' history in perpetuity. I think it is a no-brainer to depict this crucial moment in the team's history in a tangible way. It is a classic moment that will live on forever.
Here are some potential photos that a statue of him could be modeled after:
AP Photo/Mark Duncan
Perhaps a depiction of him being hoisted up by his teammates and fist pumping the air, after he crossed home plate?
Personally, I think the only players worthy of a statue outside of the Dome are Dave Stieb and Joe Carter. Alomar was probably the most God-gifted talent the Blue Jays organization has ever had (honourable mentions to Paul Molitor and Josh Donaldson), but his lack of humility and decency (namely, the incident I cited above) rubs me the wrong way. I would much rather honour Joe Carter. He is one of those guys that you can't help but fall in love with the second you meet or are introduced to him. The man is full of class and is one of the most extroverted, friendly and all-around good people I have ever witnessed in professional sports or elsewhere. I liken Alomar and Carter to Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clark. Gilmour was the more gifted, graceful athlete, but Clark was the heart and soul of the Leafs for a decade. He was such a clutch player and always gave his all whenever he stepped onto the ice. Watching him play got into your blood and filled you with a joy unlike anything you could ever imagine.
As for Joe Carter; he was no slouch in the statistics department. He always hit for poor average, but he was reliable for 30 home runs and 100 RBI each season. Alomar was a more complete player, but Carter undergirded those early 90s Jays teams with more than just his solid play. His presence was contagious and surely inspired his fellow teammates to be their best and to not acquiesce in the face of defeat or when hopes were diminished. What could possibly be more appropriate than a statue evoking Carter's legendary 1993 World Series, walk-off home run? Not only is that the most defining moment in Blue Jays history, it is probably the greatest in the entirety of Major League Baseball. I can't think of anything that can match it. Additionally, whatever the future holds for the Jays -- whether they win more World Series, down the road -- I can't imagine anything will ever parallel Carter's famous home run. It is a timeless event that will likely stand above all others in Jays' history in perpetuity. I think it is a no-brainer to depict this crucial moment in the team's history in a tangible way. It is a classic moment that will live on forever.
Here are some potential photos that a statue of him could be modeled after:
AP Photo/Mark Duncan
Perhaps a depiction of him being hoisted up by his teammates and fist pumping the air, after he crossed home plate?
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Darwinkgo
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If renovations turn into smaller bite sized changes to bump up fan experience, what about jewel boxing the lower bowl stands - could it be done without replacing the stands - just the seats? or would it involve ripping out the moveable stands and replacing them entirely?
Sky Blue Skin
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What do you mean by "jewel boxing?"
Darwinkgo
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It refers to earlier parks, but for purposes here it would be that seats are oriented towards the pitchers mound, instead of perpendicular to the row in which they are situated. In experience, you seat more comfortably to watch the vast majority of the game. Right now the seats down the base line are set so that when they are rotated, they look towards the centre of a football field/soccer pitch, so further down the baselines the seats get less and less comfortable to watch a game in, not solely suffer from sightlines.
yyzhyd
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Wow... that's pretty harsh on Alomar especially considering he's the only HOF player wearing a Jays cap.
Not only that but Joe Carter's real-life persona vs. his on-field was a complete 180 he was generally considered to be a first class jack ass by most people close to the Jays at the time.
Only 4 Jays deserve consideration for a statue in order of preference imo:
1. Alomar
2. Doc
3. Carter
4. Bautista
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