Rob Ford's Toronto

[AlvinofDiaspar]

you know people dont support ford because they like him. They support ford because they hate you.

And people who vote on the basis of hate has legitimacy because?

AoD

 

[thisbusymonster]

Can't happen for refusing to speak to police, even when under arrest.

If supoenaed as a witness at Lisi's preliminary, he would have three options: (1) testify; (2) testify and invoke the protection of the Canada Evidence Act against his testimony being used against him in another case (a bit like the US 'Fifth Amendment" but far from exactly the same, as it only gives protection against future use of the testimony, not a right to decline to testify); or (3) refuse to testify. The last option could lead to a conviction for contempt.

Options 1) and 2) are the same. There is nothing to "invoke" in Canada. Compelled testimony is simply inadmissible against you, except if you are prosecuted for perjury.

 

[NYCBoy2305]

Donovan's "40 second phone call" article from last night is no longer on the Star website. Hmmm.........

Yes it is...


http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...stigation_hangs_on_40second_mystery_call.html

 

[mrtinfoilsocket]

you know people dont support ford because they like him. They support ford because they hate you.

Which kinda indicates how absolutely moronic the average Ford voter is.

 

[jusbokeh]

And people who vote on the basis of hate has legitimacy because?

AoD

because their vote still counts in a democracy.

 

[rutefoot]

If Det. Giroux/ TPS is using Brazen 2 as a heatsink to deflect from a another spinoff investigation that includes trafficking and organized crime and actually comes up with charges, I will personally lead the petition to have Union Station (sorry DMW), my second born child, a sports arena of his choice and the next new species of dinosaur or sea creature named after him.

During the course of the investigation the police heard Lisi talk about dirty cops loyal to Ford. *If anything is worthy of further investigation, that would be it. *If they didn't look into that, then it would be truly concerning. *

It could suggest a few unsettling things:
They were trying to sweep it under the rug to avoid embarrassment or due to some misplaced loyalty

It was an issue too widespread that investigators were incapable of tackling

Or the corruption went high enough in rank and the dirty cops were being protected.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

because their vote still counts in a democracy.

Interesting - those who support an individual who flaunts the rule of law expects to be counted in a system that requires respect for the latter.

AoD

 

[MertonGuy]

Marcs Gee's column in the Globe today is pretty good.

 

[jusbokeh]

Interesting - those who support an individual who flaunts the rule of law expects to be counted in a system that requires respect for the latter.

AoD

yep.

similar to freedom of speech.

i abhor what your saying but i respect and will fight for your right to say it.

 

[edmundoconnor]

And people who vote on the basis of hate has legitimacy because?

AoD

Spite-based politics do not make for good policy outcomes. Ever.

 

[dforthandbview]

A "birdie" told me the "Toronto Police source" Warmington cites here isn't even with the police force. He's lying, but why?

Warmington's role is to discredit the TPS and politicize this whole thing. Marching orders from the Fords, most likely.

 

[FraudNation]

OK. Cole's notes on the last FIFTY pages?
Skimming makes it sound like Robbie has done nothing wrong, and will be your Mayor again.

 

[voxpopulicosmicum]

Well, think anything from Belfast to Kyiv.

Somehow I don't think the CIA is going to sponsor *our* coup.

 

[PinkLucy]

Marcs Gee's column in the Globe today is pretty good.

The last paragraph sums it up perfectly. Unfortunately, not everyone reads to the last paragraph.

But even if he never faces charges, it hardly means that, as he says, he “did nothing wrong.” Smoking crack while mayor was wrong. Lying about it was wrong. Associating with a criminal element was wrong. Let’s hope voters don’t forget that.

 

[euler]

OK. Cole's notes on the last FIFTY pages?
Skimming makes it sound like Robbie has done nothing wrong, and will be your Mayor again.

Do your own homework, kiddo.