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Well, we know there's something in it about Renata because one of the previous rulings kept information about her "personal issues" redacted.

Well, there's the section involving the domestic assault call on Aug. 27th, but it's not that long. I'm not seeing any other section that could possibly mention her where she hasn't been already. Based on what we've already heard, I wouldn't consider disclosure about her issues to be anything shocking either.
 
From CTV news website http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/remain...rdered-released-on-hold-until-dec-6-1.1563279
The federal Crown, which is prosecuting Lisi on his drug charges, didn't oppose the release of the information. But the provincial Crown argued against it.

The province is prosecuting Lisi on an extortion charge, which relates to his alleged efforts to get his hands on the video of the mayor apparently smoking crack.

The information from wiretaps didn't relate to Lisi's extortion charge, Nordheimer noted, rather some refers to his alleged attempts to retrieve another item.

The judge dismissed the provincial Crown's concerns as too "vague and amorphous" and therefore not enough to warrant a publication ban.

This leads me to believe that the wiretaps have Traveler suspects talking about Lisi's attempts to retrieve Fords cellphone only, and no mention of the crack video. Nothing earth shattering here.

Edit: After re-reading what Justice Nordheimer said, I think what he is getting at is that the only mention of Lisi is in reference to his attempts to get back Fords lost cell phone. The rest of the wiretaps may contain more references to Ford, but nothing more about Lisi, so they would not be prejudical re: the extortion charge for trying to get the crack video.
 
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Gay porn? :cool:

(I know it was a typo and was supposed to be guns)

lol yes.
But you never know with RoFo....

Very likely is. Homophobes do have a tendency to be closeted homosexuals. Like this guy (obvious closeted gay) :cool:

And of course it would destroy his support amongst the bigoted idiots who thought that Ford would "get rid of the gays" (yes, someone said that to me)
 
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Re: ITO, best policy is to expect less than media hype and more than the "too cool for school nothing to see here" people.
 
I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from.

From the Star's most recent post:

A Superior Court judge has ordered all remaining blacked out information in a police document about Mayor Rob Ford and associates released.

The Star and other media launched a court battle in October and have since been fighting to uncover all of the censored portions of a police document that details an investigation into Ford, a video of him appearing to smoke crack cocaine, and friend Alexander “Sandro” Lisi.

Fair enough, I see what you're saying. But I guess what I'm implying is that it's not a few lines here and there. There's large portions of the document that we've not yet seen unredacted. At least that's my understanding.

From an earlier Toronto star article:

In one section, there are nearly a dozen completely blacked-out pages about what the police officer writing the document learned from lead investigator Det.-Sgt. Gary Giroux after he was assigned to look into the Ford video.
 
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Meanwhile...

Doug Ford has 'zero respect' for Norm Kelly

See Toronto Sun at this link.

Councillor Doug Ford says he has “zero respect†for Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly. Ford came out swinging at Kelly — who now has most of Mayor Rob Ford’s powers at City Hall — a day after the deputy mayor encouraged anyone to show him the gravy in the 2014 budget.

Kelly didn’t end up swinging back at Ford, dismissing the attack as, “part of the sound and fury of the battlefield.â€

“I used to respect Norm Kelly, I have zero respect for him right now,†Councillor Ford said.

“No one has even tried to find savings in this budget, didn’t even try.

“Norm Kelly wasn’t part of the budget committee, he doesn’t have a clue what’s inside this budget, not a clue.â€

Councillor Ford — the vice-chairman of the budget committee — questioned why the proposed 2014 budget includes hiring 750 people — 479 at the TTC.

“Is your TTC cleaner? Is your TTC faster? Is your TTC cheaper?†Ford asked.

“Speaking of cheaper, they are raising the fees … No it is not cleaner, no it is not faster, no it is not cheaper.

“Let’s look at the overall 750 people they’re hiring, that’s my message to Norm Kelly — he should do his due diligence before commenting and maybe put in a little bit of effort to find a quarter per cent in a $12-billion-a-year overall budget.â€

The mayor’s brother questioned why Kelly accepted the job as deputy mayor back in August when “the whole world knew†the mayor wanted a 1.75% tax hike.

Ford also took a jab at Kelly’s penchant for historical references.

“I think Norm Kelly is more worried about living in the Roman days, you know in how the Roman Empire worked, we’re living in 2013,†he said.

The Etobicoke North (Ward 2) councillor said Kelly won’t make “tough decisions.â€

“If it was between being the media darling and getting an endorsement from the Toronto Star or making tough decisions, he’ll go with the endorsement from the Toronto Star,†he said.

Kelly took a diplomatic approach to Councillor Ford’s barrage of comments.

“This is a very emotional and trying time for the mayor and his brother,†Kelly said.

“Doug’s an emotional sort of guy and he expresses himself without reservation, but I like him, I like Doug.

“The only advice I would give to him and others is let’s concentrate on policy rather than personality.

“It is a democracy and sometimes you’re debating rationally and calmly and other times there is more fire involved in it.â€

He stressed the proposed budget is a work in progress that still has to go through the budget committee, the executive committee and city council approval.

The Scarborough councillor said he’s looking for specific budget cutting ecommendations.

“I would invite Doug, who has an excellent record in business, to bring his recommendations forward but again, make it as precise as you can,†he said.
 
The Star is hinting that Alana might not be a "friend" of Rob's:

Cary Watson ‏@JettisonCocoon 1h
@ddale8 @HeatherMallick @TorStarEditor Has there been any follow-up as to who the mysterious "Alana" is? She of the St Pats night fiasco?

Michael Cooke ‏@TorStarEditor 51m
@JettisonCocoon @ddale8 @HeatherMallick we're working on this but early indications are she is not as the mayor described her.

I can state as a fact that the Toronto Star is in possession of the photographs of AK which were posted on here about a week ago (the "Stag" photo's). This probably explains the comment that she is not "as the mayor described her".
 
“I used to respect Norm Kelly, I have zero respect for him right now,” Councillor Ford said.

“No one has even tried to find savings in this budget, didn’t even try.

“Norm Kelly wasn’t part of the budget committee, he doesn’t have a clue what’s inside this budget, not a clue.”

Well, Doug, just because you and Robby can't be bothered to read anything in advance of meetings, doesn't mean that everyone else operates on this low, low level.
 
“The only advice I would give to him and others is let’s concentrate on policy rather than personality.

“It is a democracy and sometimes you’re debating rationally and calmly and other times there is more fire involved in it.â€

He stressed the proposed budget is a work in progress that still has to go through the budget committee, the executive committee and city council approval.

The Scarborough councillor said he’s looking for specific budget cutting recommendations.

“I would invite Doug, who has an excellent record in business, to bring his recommendations forward but again, make it as precise as you can,†he said.

So does this mean I should now have some respect for Norm Kelly? Because I'm suddenly feeling that perhaps I should.

I never noticed him displaying any sort of spinal column until the coup d'etat/invasion of Kuwait, but now he seems to be offering calm rational leadership (even if I generally disagree with his politics) and also providing well-reasoned and polite-yet-firm discipline in response to Ford's Patented Bluster & Bullying.
 
So does this mean I should now have some respect for Norm Kelly? Because I'm suddenly feeling that perhaps I should.

I never noticed him displaying any sort of spinal column until the coup d'etat/invasion of Kuwait, but now he seems to be offering calm rational leadership (even if I generally disagree with his politics) and also providing well-reasoned and polite-yet-firm discipline in response to Ford's Patented Bluster & Bullying.

I don't know, I think Norm is secretly enjoying "cuddling" Doug to death! :p
I can kind of see Doug smacking his forehead every time one of these provocations don't lead to anything.
 
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