Roads: Ontario/GTA Highways Discussion

[Morriston1986]

Very interesting that they announced a price on the bradford bypass,

I am very much awaiting news on the new alignments of HWY 6 and widening of the 401 in Guelph

Does anyone have any information on that project?

 

[kamira51]

How cheap.

3x shorter than the 413, yet allegedly 1/6th the price?

Methinks the numbers people are throwing around for the 413 are a bit inflated.

Just like this "30 seconds saved" nonsense that's %100 false.

 

[Transportfan]

Sign for the Bradford Bypass on the 400:

 

[Undead]

I drove past that yesterday. Reminded me of the Harper era economic action plans. They shouldn't count their highways before they're hatched lol

Sign for the Bradford Bypass on the 400:

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[Transportfan]

I drove past that yesterday. Reminded me of the Harper era economic action plans. They shouldn't count their highways before they're hatched lol

Hasn't a construction start time been announced?

 

[Northern Light]

Hasn't a construction start time been announced?

from: https://www.bradfordbypass.ca/schedule/

So construction and tendering on not even on the schedule right now, just an updated 'preliminary' design.

Since detailed design/working drawings would be at least another year; plus tendering.....

If they were determined to ahead, you're looking late 2024 at the earliest.

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Just had a look at the MTO's Southern Ontario Highways Program, The Bypass does not have a target completion date assigned to it.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-highway-programs#

 

[innsertnamehere]

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from: https://www.bradfordbypass.ca/schedule/

So construction and tendering on not even on the schedule right now, just an updated 'preliminary' design.

Since detailed design/working drawings would be at least another year; plus tendering.....

If they were determined to ahead, you're looking late 2024 at the earliest.

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Just had a look at the MTO's Southern Ontario Highways Program, The Bypass does not have a target completion date assigned to it.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontarios-highway-programs#

The minister in an interview said that early construction will start next year - I suspect it will be like the 417 extension where it's a preliminary package of work that "gets things moving", but isn't the main contract. MTO did the same thing for the New Highway 7 from Guelph to Kitchener by issuing a few bridge reconstructions on 85.

The specific quote is:

When can residents expect to see shovels in the ground?

By early 2022 construction will be able to start on Yonge Street.

https://www.bradfordtoday.ca/local-news/bradford-bypass-qa-with-minister-mulroney-3816191

I suspect it'll be a preliminary contract to build the overpass above Yonge Street.

 

[Northern Light]

Interesting............

Innisfil, Barrie Councils question proposed Bradford Bypass | AWARE Simcoe

aware-simcoe.ca

Barrie Council declined to support the bypass; and a motion to support it failed 4-4 at Innisfil Council.

 

[Johnny Au]

Sign for the Bradford Bypass on the 400:

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The French part should not be below "Bradford Bypass."

It reads as "Bradford Bypass Future site of," which is not grammatical.

 

[afransen]

The French part should not be below "Bradford Bypass."

It reads as "Bradford Bypass Future site of," which is not grammatical.

I'm sure the dozen monolingual francophones that drive by will be up in arms.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Why does the Trans-Canada Highway bypass Toronto?

From link.

Where would you mark it for Toronto?

 

[ARG1]

Why does the Trans-Canada Highway bypass Toronto?

From link.

Where would you mark it for Toronto?

The transcanada highway in Ontario always perplexed me. While stuff like Highway 11 make sense, that southern section makes absolutely no sense for its route. Why is the major cross canada corridor going through peterborough before heading north around Lake Simcoe? A better route for the southern section would be to run along the A20 south of Montreal, to the 401, and then head north on the 400 to Sudbury.

 

[lenaitch]

Why does it matter? It's just signage.

 

[Transportfan]

The transcanada highway in Ontario always perplexed me. Why stuff like Highway 11 make sense, that southern section makes absolutely no sense for its route. Why is the major cross canada corridor going through peterborough before heading north around Lake Simcoe? A better route for the southern section would be to run along the A20 south of Montreal, to the 401, and then head north on the 400 to Sudbury.

I don't get that either. I was told by a guy at a PIC years ago that it was because the MTO didn't want extra traffic passing through the GTA.

That doesn't make much sense to me as anyone not already going to Toronto wouldn't take that route anyways. Besides, what country would choose not to have it's national highway network avoid its most populous and important area?

 

[Deadpool X]

Toronto is way off the Trans Canada route? Why should that route pass through Toronto in the first place?