Roads: GTA West Corridor—Highway 413

[JJTheJetPln]

It's so annoying how they're talking about doing what they're doing to connect the 410 to the 413, but we still have a bottleneck from Clark to Queen. I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs wondering when they'll be working on this project to fix that bottleneck.

Documents & Links – MTO – Highway 410 Queen Street to Bovaird Drive

hwy410queentobovaird.ca

 

[innsertnamehere]

It's so annoying how they're talking about doing what they're doing to connect the 410 to the 413, but we still have a bottleneck from Clark to Queen. I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs wondering when they'll be working on this project to fix that bottleneck.

Documents & Links – MTO – Highway 410 Queen Street to Bovaird Drive

hwy410queentobovaird.ca

Ford loves to talk new highways but has put basically no money towards upgrading existing ones. The only widenings he has funded in his premiership is the 400 widening and the 401 widening in Tilbury, which arguably was completely unnecessary.

 

[innsertnamehere]

So we should get ride of sidewalks too, because it's a was of energy. Better to just focus on driving right, the most expensive mode of transportation. I like that. Rual communities should have no options to move around. Also why spend millions connecting roads to communities either, waste of energy and money right.
I disagree, it think rual communities deserve to have mobility options and have improved mobility.

Tone down the hyperbole here. Like sidewalks in these areas, there is nothing inherently wrong with bike lanes. As you go through road reconstructions there isn't anything wrong with adding cycling infrastructure just like sidewalks, though these municipalities should be wary about maintenance costs of the facilities given their very low utilization. What I'm saying (and this is very off topic for this thread) is that towns like Bracebridge and Huntsville should not be spending immense amounts of funds or staff time on creating an extensive cycling network as it's simply not going to get significant results in modal share shifts like it may in Downtown Toronto. Sure, if you are doing a full depth reconstruction of a street it doesn't hurt to throw in some dedicated infrastructure, but the reality is that any bike lane put in these towns will probably have daily average usage rates you can count on your hands. It should not be a focus.

And "why waste money building roads" is frankly ridiculous. Unlike cycling 97% of mobility in these communities is by car - roads have far more utility.

 

[dullturtle06]

Tone down the hyperbole here. Like sidewalks in these areas, there is nothing inherently wrong with bike lanes. As you go through road reconstructions there isn't anything wrong with adding cycling infrastructure just like sidewalks, though these municipalities should be wary about maintenance costs of the facilities given their very low utilization. What I'm saying (and this is very off topic for this thread) is that towns like Bracebridge and Huntsville should not be spending immense amounts of funds or staff time on creating an extensive cycling network as it's simply not going to get significant results in modal share shifts like it may in Downtown Toronto. Sure, if you are doing a full depth reconstruction of a street it doesn't hurt to throw in some dedicated infrastructure, but the reality is that any bike lane put in these towns will probably have daily average usage rates you can count on your hands. It should not be a focus.

And "why waste money building roads" is frankly ridiculous. Unlike cycling 97% of mobility in these communities is by car - roads have far more utility.

Last replay on this. But just wanted to share what can be done when towns are built for people not just cars. I would recommend this video on the change that can be accomplished with some vision. Video by Road Guy Rob