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Harvey’s QSR Restaurant Chain Looks to Add 200 Locations in Canada in National Rollout

Harvey’s QSR Restaurant Chain Looks to Add 200 Locations in Canada in National Rollout

The company's President says that the 300-store chain is launching a signifiant expansion that will see it enter markets such as British Columbia for the first time.

retail-insider.com

 

[Northern Light]

Harvey’s QSR Restaurant Chain Looks to Add 200 Locations in Canada in National Rollout

Harvey’s QSR Restaurant Chain Looks to Add 200 Locations in Canada in National Rollout

The company's President says that the 300-store chain is launching a signifiant expansion that will see it enter markets such as British Columbia for the first time.

retail-insider.com

On the one hand, that's projected 67% growth in location count.

On the other hand, it makes you realize how small Harvey's is relative to its competitors in the burger chain space.

Canadian Burger Chains - location count

McDs - 1,462
A&W - 1,033
Wendys - 403
Burger King - 327
Harveys - 300

As a comparative note

Tim's has over 4,000 locations in Canada

 

[AlbertC]

No official timeline set yet, but Montreal-based chef Antonio Park will be opening a new restaurant in the former One Eighty space at the 51st floor of the Manulife Centre:

Famed Montreal chef Antonio Park is opening a new restaurant high atop Yorkville

Antonio Park is a world-renowned culinary talent with a famous eponymous restaurant in Montreal, as well as several other hotspots.

streetsoftoronto.com

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

On the one hand, that's projected 67% growth in location count.

On the other hand, it makes you realize how small Harvey's is relative to its competitors in the burger chain space.

Canadian Burger Chains - location count

McDs - 1,462
A&W - 1,033
Wendys - 403
Burger King - 327
Harveys - 300

As a comparative note

Tim's has over 4,000 locations in Canada

I am actually surprised that A&W has that many; also surprised that there are more Wendy's than BKs.

AoD

 

[Northern Light]

I am actually surprised that A&W has that many; also surprised that there are more Wendy's than BKs.

AoD

Keep in mind for all these chains, this is really a measure of points-of-sale, not necessarily traditional 'restaurants'.

So when you see that you can get A&W at your local Petro Canada Station, that counts towards location count; the same way one of those little Tim's huts that's drive-thru only, and has no on-site kitchen counts.

Same thing for locations inside cinemas and food courts.

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Wendy's is still benefiting from its brief co-building period w/Tim's when they were the owner.

BK Canada has historically not done very well, it has never invested the $$ into prime real estate or keeping locations current that the market-leaders have. That seems to be changing, but it's recent.

 

[Fritter]

I am actually surprised that A&W has that many; also surprised that there are more Wendy's than BKs.

AoD

I believe the higher A & W count is their larger presence relatively in Western Canada. On a cross Country tip years ago when A & W was mainly a mall food court presence in Ontario, I was surprised at the number of stand alone full restaurants in big small locations across the Prairies.

 

[Northern Light]

I believe the higher A & W count is their larger presence relatively in Western Canada. On a cross Country tip years ago when A & W was mainly a mall food court presence in Ontario, I was surprised at the number of stand alone full restaurants in big small locations across the Prairies.

Historically true, to be sure.

That said, have a look at the current locations map for downtown outposts:

I get 13 A&Ws

Same approx. area for BK:

3 locations

 

[gabe]

I believe the higher A & W count is their larger presence relatively in Western Canada. On a cross Country tip years ago when A & W was mainly a mall food court presence in Ontario, I was surprised at the number of stand alone full restaurants in big small locations across the Prairies.

Growing up in the 1980s/90s the only stand alone A&W in Ontario i remember was on Hespeler rd in Cambridge, where the Starbucks is. it was one of the last A&W's left over from the olden days.

My dad grew up in the 50s and remembers when A&W had stand alone locations across Ontario, ( drive ins) the girls would bring the food out to your car window on roller skates. My guess Mcdonalds probably killed them off in the 1960s/70s It's nice to see the chain make a come back. I prefer A&W over most of the other burger chains.

 

[evandyk]

A&W has expanded massively in Ontario over the last 4-5 years. Most of those Toronto ones weren't around even as little as 2 years ago.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

A&W has expanded massively in Ontario over the last 4-5 years. Most of those Toronto ones weren't around even as little as 2 years ago.

Yes that's what I have noticed as well - I remember A&Ws were super rare and like @Fritter said, restricted to malls.

AoD

 

[Northern Light]

A&W has expanded massively in Ontario over the last 4-5 years. Most of those Toronto ones weren't around even as little as 2 years ago.

True.

In the press release I quote below, you would note they had 860 locations in early 2017, so they've added about 170 since then, disproportionately in the GTA.

The product of a much lauded C-suite team at A&W.

They hit on a marketing/niche point w/their push for sustainable/natural as features of their menu. Whether they fully meet their implied promise is an open question; but they have moved in that direction and marketed
it brilliantly.

Additionally, they've a had a strategy of keeping upfront franchise costs relatively low; well below what their peers charge, making then a logical entry point for someone who aspires to own/operate one or more fast food outlets.

This is what I'm talking about:

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Source: https://awincomefund.mediaroom.com/...hises-to-Business-Savvy-Entrepreneurs-by-2020

Compare that to an entry point of $700,000 for a McDs franchise in Canada

BK is structured a bit different in terms of how you invest, their nominal fee is quite low ~50k, but you require a lot more capital than that, ~1M + is typical to my understanding.

 

[ShonTron]

Growing up in the 1980s/90s the only stand alone A&W in Ontario i remember was on Hespeler rd in Cambridge, where the Starbucks is. it was one of the last A&W's left over from the olden days.

My dad grew up in the 50s and remembers when A&W had stand alone locations across Ontario, ( drive ins) the girls would bring the food out to your car window on roller skates. My guess Mcdonalds probably killed them off in the 1960s/70s It's nice to see the chain make a come back. I prefer A&W over most of the other burger chains.

Yeah, I remember the Hespeler Road location when it was really one-of-a-kind, back when it retreated out west (including Northwestern Ontario) with the mall food courts otherwise being the only presence.

The expansion came as the chain became an investment trust, which saw the stand-alone stores return, the new branding, and later the hyper-expansion to continue the investment trust’s growth.

 

[mike0001]

Naru Izakaya at Church & Carlton has closed:

Japanese restaurant in Toronto permanently closes after less than 2 years

An izakaya joint that had opened in Toronto with unfortunate timing has announced they've now permanently closed down. Japanese restaurant Naru Izaka…

www.blogto.com

It looks like Ajisen Ramen will be taking over in that space.

 

[AlbertC]

Grant van Gameren is opening a new burger location (also) called Harry's Charbroiled at the Northeast corner of Coxwell and Eastwood, the former spot of a Coffee Time that closed a few years ago:

Grant van Gameren's burger joint Harry's Charbroiled is opening soon in the east end

The famed restaurateur is taking his reimagined burger concept to an old Coffee Time spot at Coxwell and Gerrard.

streetsoftoronto.com

 

[Bayer]

Le Sélect has announced its coming reopening.