Premier Doug Ford's Ontario

[Jasmine18]

Huh? Do you have a reference for that? I forget, because I've never heard it. And my ear is pretty close to the ground peppers.

"Libertarian" means shit when people can't get to work and get paid peanuts when they get there. You mistake "Libertarian" for "slack".

If you have not heard that your ears are not close to the ground peppers at all.


One of the biggest compliants about the Liberals time in charge of Ontario was the 'nanny state' attitude.

Not around increasing min wage but laws around Liqour and what have you.

 

[Jasmine18]

I can agree w/the first line.

The second, is offensive (not you, but the notion), but...perhaps.

Where you wander too far for me is the third stanza.

I think the privatization of Hydro One might be her leading fail. The shrinking of government.

The reason being people found her insincere on that, and therefore questioned everything else.

Yeah of course and even a lot of people who like the idea of higher min wage and such naturally saw all of those moves as desperate vote buying then "doing good"

 

[steveintoronto]

If you have not heard that your ears are not close to the ground peppers at all.

How Con of you. You can't produce a reference.
And "ground peppers" was a play on words that you obviously missed.

Here's the one reference showing, and lo and behold, it's YOU! In THIS forum!

Sep 27, 2018
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That is what I disliked the most about Premier Mom and Dad (Wynne and Dalton)... and hope the next Liberal Leaders move on from that mindset.

That everyone in the province is an idiot and the government needs to control everything and regulate everything or else it will chaos even though numerous places have private liquor stores or weed stores.

Wynne's Pot plan made weed even more restricted than when it was illegal lol...

https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/premier-doug-fords-ontario.28523/page-240

Here's what you stated:

Yeah I think many people forget people use to call Dalton and Wynne as Premier Mom and Dad.

'Me, myself, and I' must count for 'many people' in your instance.

 

[narduch]

How Con of you. You can't produce a reference.
And "ground peppers" was a play on words that you obviously missed.

Here's the one reference showing, and lo and behold, it's YOU! In THIS forum!

https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/premier-doug-fords-ontario.28523/page-240

Here's what you stated:

'Me, myself, and I' must count for 'many people' in your instance.

I have heard Dalton called Premier dad before. Hell if you Google "Premier Dad" most of the results are about McGuinty.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Andrew Scheer's Camp Says Pressing Doug Ford On Ontario's French Services Cuts ‘Like Talking To A Wall’

From link.

Blindsided by the Ontario premier's decision to cut French services, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer's camp is hoping that Doug Ford realizes he's set off a national debate that could hurt Scheer in next year's federal election.

"We are associated to a decision that we did not help make, that we were not aware of — we learned this at the same time as everybody else when they made their announcement — and now, it's like, as if by association, we are OK with that decision," a frustrated member of Scheer's team told HuffPost Canada on Sunday.

In a fiscal update Thursday, the Ford government announced it was backing away from its election promise to fund a French-language university in Toronto and was eliminating the Office of the French Language Services Commissioner — moving some of those responsibilities to the province's ombudsman...

...Scheer spoke with Ford and with Caroline Mulroney, the minister responsible for francophone affairs.

The two leaders spoke for 15 minutes. "After two minutes, we realized that he wasn't going to change his mind," the source said. "It was like talking to a wall."

Scheer's camp told the Ford team that their decision hadn't just touched a chord in Ontario, but also one in Quebec. Columns and editorials denouncing the decision have been published in every major Quebec newspaper, with some opinion writers questioning the province's role in the federation if official languages are so easily attacked elsewhere...

Would rather have a "wall" next time for Premier of Ontario.

 

[steveintoronto]

Would rather have a "wall" next time for Premier of Ontario.

Too late:
Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall retiring from politics

I've got to add: A wall has more neurons, feelings and integrity than Ford could ever have.

 

[Videodrome]

Huh, so even Andy Doody has issues with Doug.

 

[JasonParis]

Doug doesn't care about national unity no more than Trump cares about American "unity." It's about figuring out where he's popular and with whom and then continuing, despite everything, to play to that base over and over.

 

[steveintoronto]

Doug doesn't care about national unity no more than Trump cares about American "unity." It's about figuring out where he's popular and with whom and then continuing, despite everything, to play to that base over and over.

I was just thinking about that. He was the hit-man to off Wynne, he's done his job for the Cons, and now as his 'base' whittles away, his 'handlers' must be plotting to dispose of him. His polling has nosedived, and now he's becoming an irritant for his 'seniors'.

How much longer can he survive before he has an 'accident'. Hmmm...sexual harassment around the corner?

 

[narduch]

I was just thinking about that. He was the hit-man to off Wynne, he's done his job for the Cons, and now as his 'base' whittles away, his 'handlers' must be plotting to dispose of him. His polling has nosedived, and now he's becoming an irritant for his 'seniors'.

How much longer can he survive before he has an 'accident'. Hmmm...sexual harassment around the corner?

I think you are too optimistic.

With our luck he will fail upwards.

 

[JasonParis]

I doubt a sexual harrassment scandal would change his polling much. It could even bolster it. It's a fairly 'non-event' in Trump's polling. Just a small two-week down blip really.

 

[John_Dee]

Yeah I think many people forget people use to call Dalton and Wynne as Premier Mom and Dad.

I find somepeople will ignore the cuts and other things oddly and still back or not mind Ford much because of his more libertarian mindset compared to the previous provincial liberals.

It's remarkable how certain zombie talking points simply refuse to die, no matter how inaccurate or dishonest they are. This is the sort of drivel I used to see in the Toronto Sun over 30 years ago, back when I was a kid and actually read that rag. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. Wynne was and is a "centrist" and a neoliberal, which meant she tried to put a mildly progressive façade on carrying out the right's dirty work for them while she was in power. That's what neoliberals do, and that's why, among other things, she privatised Ontario Hydro and sold Woodbine Casino to a private consortium - and a shady one, no less - for pennies on the dollar. Not because she was some far left looney who wanted to turn the province into a nanny state. Privatising everything in sight is demonstrable Thatcherism. It's certainly not liberalism or leftism at work, though the business-friendly empty suits who mostly run our supposedly progressive political parties in the West these days are at odds to make it appear otherwise. Ultimately, these bastards are serving the same masters that our official conservative parties are. It helps if you consider them to be competing factions of greed who are essentially on the same side.

I don't want to make it sound like we're quibbling over semantics because this matters. I thought Wynne was a fairly typical politician of her ilk, and figured her personality was so banal it would insulate her from personal attacks once election season started up. What I didn't count on was her near-staggering levels of incompetence. By the time the election finally arrived, I'd personally gone from having no strong opinions about the woman one way or the other to feeling like I could cheerfully wring her neck myself should the opportunity ever arise. If that's how I felt, one can imagine the mindsets of the local reactionary crowd, i.e. the mouth-droolers & kooks who were already calling her a "devil" and a "demon" online, mostly because they were religious primitives. But people at large didn't truly begin to hate Wynne until she started explicitly carrying out the Tories' agenda for them, the Hydro sale being the most obvious (and damaging) example. That's what got her kicked out of power, not being "Premiere Mom," for fuck's sakes. That claim is downright idiotic on its face.

 

[WislaHD]

I am hearing that providing afFORDable housing will be one of the government's priorities come the spring.

 

[Videodrome]

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens..._content=FordSaysNoNationalPoliticalAmbitions

Of course he wants to be CPC leader. It is pretty obvious.

 

[steveintoronto]

I doubt a sexual harrassment scandal would change his polling much. It could even bolster it. It's a fairly 'non-event' in Trump's polling. Just a small two-week down blip really.

lol...it might help lower the sense that the man is devoid of some essential hormones.

Remember the old saying: "Imagine your parents having sex". That seems better in comparison with Ford...far better...