News   Jun 28, 2024
Streetsville Centre Plaza Redevelopment Proposed North of GO Station in Mississauga
 2.8K     3 
News   Jun 28, 2024
GALA Developments Unveils Danny Danforth in Toronto's East End
 1.6K     2 
News   Jun 28, 2024
News Roundup for June 28, 2024
 601     1 

PM Justin Trudeau's Canada

The last time he saw his wife was on June 23, 2014, three days after his father's death. His journey then led him to Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico before he finally landed in the United States in October 2014.
Click to expand...

That is not a refugee, that is an economic migrant. All those countries minus Venezuela, Nicaragua and Honduras, are safe countries.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
I don't see anything wrong with CBC reporting - the question is whether these individuals are actually refugees. Somalia, perhaps...but Ghana?

AoD
Click to expand...


The CBC article presents a fairly rosy perspective of the whole situation- that becoming a Canadian is as simple as walking across the border where you will have aid agencies on the ready to help you and lawyers to represent your application.

No doubt additional migrants will be encouraged to make the trip.

Feels very much like the puff-piece articles coming out of Europe in the early days of the 2015-16 migrant crisis.
 
Another heart-tug puff piece. Again, information is being put out (possible loopholes in legality, lawyers, lack of detention) there that will encourage more to take the trip.

Interesting to note where the migrants are coming from (Minneapolis), though.

'I want to die,' 2-year-old refugee said during hours-long walk to Manitoba from U.S.

A two-year-old member of a large group of refugees who walked into Manitoba from Minnesota on Saturday told his mom he wanted to die instead of finish the walk, a refugee from the group says.

Abdoul-Aziz Abdi Hoche, 21, was part of the group who made the two-hour journey on foot along a frozen river from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m., as temperatures dropped below –20C.

The walk through the snow was difficult for everybody, Hoche said, but it was especially hard for a toddler making the trip with his mother.

"He say he cannot protect in the snow," Hoche said Wednesday. "He say, 'Mom, I want to die, you can go in the Canada. I want to die in the snow, you can go, mom, in the Canada.'"

Hoche, along with the boy and his mother, were among 22 people who crossed from the United States into Canada near Emerson, Man., over the weekend, seeking asylum.

Hoche himself came from Djibouti. He said he fled in September 2016, fearing for his life because of his political beliefs. His father was imprisoned and died in jail, he said, and his family never found out how he died.

Like the other members of his group, Hoche made his way to Minneapolis after arriving in the U.S. There, they were told Manitoba is welcoming to refugees, and they decided to make their way into the province on foot.


Minneapolis 'a hub'

Winnipeg immigration and refugee lawyer Bashir Khan says a surge of refugees arriving in Manitoba on foot began in late November.

Khan said many African refugees make their way to Minneapolis after arriving in the U.S. to seek support, as the city has a large Somalian community.


"Minneapolis has got 200,000 Somali Americans," he said. "It is a mecca, a hub for the African Muslim community."

He said many of them are told Manitoba is a good option when they're there.

"Out of desperation, they end up here because here they know, you won't be detained in Canada, you will get a legal aid lawyer — such as myself and others in Canada, in this country — and you will get a chance to have your case put forward, and you will be able to make calls to get evidence you may need to support your claim," he said.


Illegal entry?

Canada Border Services Agency's most recent numbers show 403 asylum seekers illegally crossed into Manitoba between April 2016 and the end of January 2017, many of them entering near the small border town of Emerson.

However, there's an ongoing debate over whether what these people are doing is actually "illegal" at all.

Canada has a pact with the U.S. called the Safe Third Country Agreement that means prospective claimants must file for refugee status in the first "safe" country they land in. Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) is supposed to turn away anyone with undocumented status who tries to enter the country from the U.S.

One exception allows individuals who landed in America first but have blood relatives north of the Canada-U.S. border to make their claim in Canada.

Canada's Immigration Minister said Tuesday the deal is meant to prevent "asylum shopping" or what Christian Leuprechet, a political science professor at Queen's University and the Royal Military College of Canada, describes as cherry-picking favoured resettlement countries.

But the rule breaks down in the current context and has critics calling on Canada to suspend or get rid of the deal altogether out of safety concerns for refugees.


'Clearly quite desperate'

The Safe Third Country only applies to people crossing at customs offices at official U.S.-Canada land ports in Manitoba. Cross through a snow-covered farmer's field on foot in harsh winter conditions — like two Ghanaian refugees did in December, losing most of their fingers to frostbite — and the United Nations' 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees kicks in.

"Anybody who tries to cross a land border, in Canada, on foot, in the winter is clearly quite desperate to get to Canada," Leuprechet said.

"In that sense I think everybody deserves the benefit of the doubt and we have to make sure we honour our international obligations in regards to them."

Some arrive with the right paperwork, others have none, while still others have insufficient documentation that isn't enough to file a claim. Anyone who has violated international laws, been convicted criminally or engaged in war crimes is also less likely to have their refugee claim accepted.

"It is not just about a security threat to Canada per se, but it's about if there is anything in your history that might possibly make you inadmissible," Leuprechet said.


Available data suggests there are about 12 million undocumented people living in America, Leuprechet said. For the most part, Leuprechet believes the majority of these people likely entered the U.S. intending to file a refugee claim, or they abandoned the process once after feeling they were running into problems in getting a hearing.
Click to expand...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-refugees-border-crossing-1.3972374


And an unfortunate incident involving a Syrian refugee. Shame that this story will erode goodwill in this country.
Man charged after ‘multiple sexual assaults’ at West Edmonton Mall waterpark
Click to expand...

http://globalnews.ca/news/3235690/m...ual-assaults-at-west-edmonton-mall-waterpark/
 
Last edited:
Last edited:
More migrants on their way- is media to blame for publicizing this (like they did in Europe)? Is it time to close the Safe Third Country loophole? Or are we going to see the Liberals buckle under the pressure and cancel the agreement?

If this issue isn't dealt with by spring- the trickle will turn into a torrent.


21 asylum seekers crossed into Manitoba Saturday: reeve

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/more-refugees-cross-at-emerson-manitoba-1.3978714


But more troubling- people are taking advantage of this who haven't been living in the US.
“You cannot cross from here. It’s illegal. You will be arrested,” a female Mountie warned from the Canadian side of border.

“It’s not a problem,” the father of three replied in halting English.

“You’ve been told. It’s illegal and you will be arrested, and all your family will be arrested,” the officer said again.
Click to expand...

For the Sudanese family who stumbled across the border Friday morning, it was an awkward march as they lugged their six suitcases, two purses, two backpacks and three plastic, J.C. Penney bags into Canada. When the father gave himself up, he was handcuffed and placed in the back of the police truck. The others — two younger boys and two adult women — were left struggling with the baggage.

Airline luggage tags indicated that they had flown out of Doha, Qatar on Monday of this week and arrived in Washington the following day, Feb. 7.
Click to expand...

Most of his clients are people who were already living in the United States, but others obtain tourist visas to travel to the U.S. and use that as the entry point for their trek to Canada. Despite American fears about border security since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Handfield said it remains easier to obtain the necessary permissions to enter the U.S. than those required to enter Canada.
Click to expand...

He would not say from which country he had come, but he passed his stuffed black backpack to the RCMP officer, and the airline baggage tags indicated that he had travelled on Turkish Airways from Istanbul to New York’s JFK airport.

He willingly crossed his hands behind his back to be handcuffed and led away.
Click to expand...

Ten minutes earlier, a man and woman in their 30s who were dressed fashionably but not so seasonably, had pulled up to the border in a taxi with just a carry-on suitcase and a blue plastic bag bearing the name “Hudson News,” an airport retail shop.
Click to expand...

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...hreat-pushing-asylum-seekers-into-canada.html
 
Last edited:
WislaHD said:
That is not a refugee, that is an economic migrant. All those countries minus Venezuela, Nicaragua and Honduras, are safe countries.
Click to expand...
......and Colombia...and Guatemala.

Hell, given rates of violent crime, add Mexico, Brasil, and US to that.

Yeah, I guess Costa Rica could have taken him.
 
MTown said:
......and Colombia...and Guatemala.

Hell, given rates of violent crime, add Mexico, Brasil, and US to that.

Yeah, I guess Costa Rica could have taken him.
Click to expand...
I lived in that part of the world. There is a reason why I highlighted those countries and not the others.

The others, violence is endemic in certain pockets of the country. There is crime and violence in general at a scale not imaginable in Canada, sure, but unless you are from those specific pockets in particular, you can live your life fairly normally as long as you don't fall in the wrong circles. If you are from those pockets, then the answer is to migrate to another part of the country and that does happen.

In Venezuela, Nicaragua and Honduras the situation is different as crime and violence is at the levels of a nation-wide pandemic, your life will be impacted by it on a regular basis, and there is no part of the country where it isn't occurring. I'll grant that Guatemala could be added to that list perhaps.
 
tiffer24 said:
Tune in tomorrow...

NQ1anpVf_normal.jpg
Daniel Dale@ddale8
9 mins ago
Trudeau and Trump are doing a roundtable about the advancement of women in business.
Click to expand...
That sounds more like a meme than an actual headline. (Tweetline?)
 
You must log in or register to post here.

Back
Top