OLG Toronto/GTA casino proposal (where to put it?)

[freshcutgrass]

The tax was intended to shut down all new billboards, not raise revenue.

Have you ever considered providing any facts or evidence to support your claims, considering your claims generally fly in the face of known facts and evidence? Not saying you are wrong...just that you need to convince me with more than just your baseless, anonymous opinions. And your rather belligerent demeanour doesn't help your case either.

The billboard tax was spearheaded by Beautiful City, who's mandate is to get city funding for the arts, not get rid of billboards. When the Toronto Act came into place, the Hemson Report (consultants hired to recommend new revenue sources to the city) gave its highest recommendation for new revenues to the billboard tax, along with the VRF & LTT.

Why would you want to remove the source of your funding?

If it were about revenue only I'm sure Rob and others would have supported it.

What's it like to have a direct line to workings of the mind of Rob Ford? Wish I did, cause at the moment, he defies any sense of logic or common sense.

The political wrangling over the billboard tax centred around whether it should go directly to arts funding, or put into general revenues and then allocated to arts funding. Ford voted against it, and said that arts funding was never going to see this revenue no matter what they think....the usual Ford rambling incoherent noise we are used to.

Rob is "pro-business" and ant-arts. His major malfunction on this one is that the arts IS big business in Toronto, and every dollar towards the arts reaps big dividends for the city. This is a concept far beyond the simple pea-brain that resides in Ford's skull.

 

[voxpopulicosmicum]

How about a gambling train on the new subway?
The province throws in a billion dollars and gets a 24/7 gambling train, gamblers won't have to drive to the casino and try to find a parking spot, the casino comes to them. Going downtown? take the right train and play a little black jack enroute.
No traffic or pollution, no mob or hookers (unless a hooker train follows the gambling train around).
Sounds like fun.

I think it's a great idea, but it might interfere with the use of the subways for garbage collection, as is being discussed in another thread.

 

[CN Tower]

Not saying you are wrong...just that you need to convince me with more than just your baseless, anonymous opinions.

I need to do nothing of the sort. Believe whatever you want. Makes no difference to me what you think. Let's just say I know people in the industry and have more knowledge on the topic that what you read in The Star.

Ford voted against it, and said that arts funding was never going to see this revenue no matter what they think....

He was dead on with that comment.

the usual Ford rambling incoherent noise we are used to.

Ad-hominem-Cut-Grass


Back to the thread, I am pro-business and pro-arts. Maybe we can wrangle some priceless works of Canadian art into our casino like they did at the Belagio in Vegas.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Enough adH in this thread.

AoD

 

[Ice_Burn]

I need to do nothing of the sort. Believe whatever you want. Makes no difference to me what you think. Let's just say I know people in the industry and have more knowledge on the topic that what you read in The Star.

Most of us matured beyond 'my uncle works at Nintendo' arguments in middle school. If you're genuinely interested in convincing people you're not full of it, you should provide some, or any, evidence.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Just what does the billboard issue have anything to do with siting casinos?

Stick to the topic or the post deleting starts.

AoD

 

[freshcutgrass]

If the province decides the City of Toronto is getting a casino, then the all-round choice would be Woodbine.

Politically, this is the dog with the least fleas for both the City and the province, considering the obvious blowback that will ensue regarding any site in the downtown area. That's why racetracks are generally where these things go all over NA, because it's already a "gaming" site (not that I consider horse racing and casinos in the same light) Since slots already exists there, it's really just an "upgrade" of the status quo.

Since Ford is already on record as taking credit for creating 10,000 jobs at Woodbine, it might get that stalled project speeded up and actually create some jobs.

 

[Torontovibe]

As long as they keep it away from Ontario Place, I'll be fine with that.

 

[Grimace]

You're a character from Sesame Street and you're labeling me? How ignorant of you.

I am a character used to sell McDonald's, not a creation of non-for-profit U.S. television. Just so we're clear.

 

[gristle]

Your being attacked on the basis of your avatar?

That's way too funny. An awesome approach to an argument.

 

[jaycola]

Put it at the corner of Yonge and Steeles. Oh... The subway doesn't got that far, never mind.

 

[TOareaFan]

Put it at the corner of Yonge and Steeles. Oh... The subway doesn't got that far, never mind.

But a casino/arena/concert space here might be a good idea

http://www3.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Pr...y_extension/Design/Vaughan_Centre_Station.jsp

 

[adma]

If the province decides the City of Toronto is getting a casino, then the all-round choice would be Woodbine.

Politically, this is the dog with the least fleas for both the City and the province, considering the obvious blowback that will ensue regarding any site in the downtown area. That's why racetracks are generally where these things go all over NA, because it's already a "gaming" site (not that I consider horse racing and casinos in the same light) Since slots already exists there, it's really just an "upgrade" of the status quo.

Since Ford is already on record as taking credit for creating 10,000 jobs at Woodbine, it might get that stalled project speeded up and actually create some jobs.

And to be fair, it's not all that unlike where these casino-like joints wind up in "world class" burgs that seemingly don't require casinos.

 

[Torontovibe]

Watch this video and you'll know why I've been saying Ontario Place is the WORST place for a casino.
[video=youtube;fF05hM3vHRU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF05hM3vHRU[/video]

 

[Automation Gallery]

Forget Woodbine and Ontario Place, i would not be a bit surprised... if a casino complex is included in the plans to re-develop the LCBO HQ + Warehouse Site @ Queens Quay.