Oddfellows Hall 450 Yonge @ Carlton (?, 5s addition, ERA)

[Benito]

If this goes ahead I'll lose the bit of view I have from my clinic window.

 

[themarc]

Maybe they are adding a more modern elevator to the building?

 

[Tewder]

dont mess with character. please re consider this proposal.
i vote dont touch this. its not spectacular by any means but. come on. leave some history untouched in this city.

This one is pretty spectacular!

 

[androiduk]

Application: Demolition Folder (DM) Status: Not Started

Location: 450 YONGE ST
TORONTO ON M4Y 1W9

Ward 27: Toronto Centre-Rosedale

Application#: 14 251851 DEM 00 DM Accepted Date: Nov 14, 2014

Project: Multiple Use/Non Residential Demolition

Description: To demolish the existing shed attached to the existing four storey multi-use building.

 

[interchange42]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that the shed would be the item that's got the red pin on it.

Source: Apple Maps

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[DSC]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that the shed would be the item that's got the red pin on it.

42

From the City property map it appears that there is a 'courtyard' behind the building (almost directly below your red pin where the building 'jogs in'. (The building footprint is shown on these maps). I guess there is a shed in this (tiny?) courtyard and they want to demolish it and build up 4 floors from ground level - maybe an elevator??)

 

[whatever]

Closing in that little courtyard would make sense. If they can upgrade the elevator and/or mechanical to help extend the lifetime of the building I'm all for it. That part of the building is going to be completely obstructed by YC Condos anyway

 

[Automation Gallery]

From the City property map it appears that there is a 'courtyard' behind the building (almost directly below your red pin where the building 'jogs in'. (The building footprint is shown on these maps). I guess there is a shed in this (tiny?) courtyard and they want to demolish it and build up 4 floors from ground level - maybe an elevator??)

Yup, its an elevator shaft

450 YONGE ST
File Number: A1162/14TEY Zoning CR 3.0(c2.0; r3.0) SS1 & CR
T3.0 C2.0 R3.0 (PPR)
Ward: Toronto Centre-Rosedale (27)
Property Address: 450 YONGE ST Community: Toronto
Legal Description: PLAN 159 LOTS A & B
PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION:
To alter the existing four-storey mixed use building by constructing a new elevator shaft and stair overrun.

 

[adma]

Though wouldn't the existing elevator be a heritage feature?

 

[Automation Gallery]

Though wouldn't the existing elevator be a heritage feature?

Not if it doesnt meet code.

 

[Tuscani01]

Not if it doesnt meet code.

But if it didn't meet code, it would technically be grandfathered, no?

Though even if it were grandfathered, accessibility trumps heritage protection.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

But if it didn't meet code, it would technically be grandfathered, no?

I thought they are legally obliged to meet the code if they were to do any significant renovations, even if it is grandfathered? Plus it might very well be something that would add value to the property.

AoD

 

[Tewder]

Though even if it were grandfathered, accessibility trumps heritage protection.

Does it? It really shouldn't.

 

[Tuscani01]

Does it? It really shouldn't.

"Oh, sorry that your wheel chair doesn't fit into the elevator. Paraplegics aren't allowed upstairs because this building is historic"

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

"Oh, sorry that your wheel chair doesn't fit into the elevator. Paraplegics aren't allowed upstairs because this building is historic"

I don't think it should be an either or - where possible, accessibility should be maximized, but it shouldn't be done to the extent to wrecking a building's heritage character (which isn't the case here). Imagine trying to make the Leaning Tower of Pisa accessible? It would have made no sense.

AoD