miWay Transit

[Sauga89]

Actually I do drive there. But there is an actual bus stop there. I don’t know where the bus comes from though

I think the tennis club and Huron Park community centre currently get limited service on the 4 route, but only once in the morning and once in the mid-afternoon, to serve the local schools. The 2030 map above would put it on the regular route of the 6, and cut a 5 km loop from the route of the 4.

 

[drum118]

I think the tennis club and Huron Park community centre currently get limited service on the 4 route, but only once in the morning and once in the mid-afternoon, to serve the local schools. The 2030 map above would put it on the regular route of the 6, and cut a 5 km loop from the route of the 4.

Went to a community early this year and you have to walk from/to Dundas to get to/from Huron Park as there is no service to it regardless a bus stop is there.

 

[T3G]

Went to a community early this year and you have to walk from/to Dundas to get to/from Huron Park as there is no service to it regardless a bus stop is there.

Did you actually fact check this?

There most definitely is limited service on route 4 to Huron Park. It's even called out on the system map!

https://www.mississauga.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2025/08/08090643/MT-SystemMap_Sept1_2025_Weekday_Web.pdf

It doesn't appear to be very impressive or useful - there are only 2 daily departures - but yes, for the purposes of this discussion, it does exist. And why you'd walk from Dundas, instead of Mavis and Paisley and half your journey length, is a mystery to me.

 

[Sauga89]

Went to a community early this year and you have to walk from/to Dundas to get to/from Huron Park as there is no service to it regardless a bus stop is there.

Did you actually fact check this?

To be fair, two buses a day isn't much of a service.

This 2030 map in the survey would provide Huron Park will service every 30 minutes and eliminate huge doglegs in both routes. Hopefully, they won't wait too long to implement it. I don't think it would require extra buses to operate.

 

[drum118]

Did you actually fact check this?

There most definitely is limited service on route 4 to Huron Park. It's even called out on the system map!

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https://www.mississauga.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2025/08/08090643/MT-SystemMap_Sept1_2025_Weekday_Web.pdf

It doesn't appear to be very impressive or useful - there are only 2 daily departures - but yes, for the purposes of this discussion, it does exist. And why you'd walk from Dundas, instead of Mavis and Paisley and half your journey length, is a mystery to me.

Yes I did fact check but the times of buses did not meet my schedule. 2 or 3 buses a day is not quality of service to incurrage people to use transit. As for walking from/to Dundas is again quality of service when using the 101 in the first place. It was faster walking than wait for a 4. Have walked faster from a stop to x than wait for a bus and do this a lot in Toronto for streetcars.

Quality of service is not there in Mississauga to incurrage people to use transit today let alonge in 2000 that started me on my Transit and Urban advocateies route. It is there if you are a student but not as a worker who needs to get to work on time or run after their shift ends.

it will be interesting to see what gets added, cut or deferred to miway budget in 2026 that happens to be a election year with the city looking at a 10% tax hike for the city itself Council has trim miway buget in election year in the past and expect the same for the 2026 budget. Will the deferred 2025 buses get order in 2026 to the captial budget could lower this year or will be be doing what took place back in 2018 and extened the life cycle of the buses from 15 years to 18-21 years??

Only have to look at the 3rd garage that been kick down the road since 2011 that the city cannot add more buses to the existing fleet as there is no room for them at the current 2 garages.?? There was talked a year or so ago of ordering artic's in place of 40's to deal with overcrowding and close doors issues but how large will the fleet be that is mostly 40's as you are doing a 3 to 2 to maintain the existing space for 500 buses?? Right now, buses are been removed from various routes to increase service on X routes for more service and cutting service on those routes where buses are been removed to supply the routes needing more service.

 

[T3G]

I know that the level of service offered is not attractive... but to describe the situation as no service is just plain inaccurate. Very, very, very bad service is still a form of service.

 

[sixrings]

Yes I did fact check but the times of buses did not meet my schedule. 2 or 3 buses a day is not quality of service to incurrage people to use transit. As for walking from/to Dundas is again quality of service when using the 101 in the first place. It was faster walking than wait for a 4. Have walked faster from a stop to x than wait for a bus and do this a lot in Toronto for streetcars.

Quality of service is not there in Mississauga to incurrage people to use transit today let alonge in 2000 that started me on my Transit and Urban advocateies route. It is there if you are a student but not as a worker who needs to get to work on time or run after their shift ends.

it will be interesting to see what gets added, cut or deferred to miway budget in 2026 that happens to be a election year with the city looking at a 10% tax hike for the city itself Council has trim miway buget in election year in the past and expect the same for the 2026 budget. Will the deferred 2025 buses get order in 2026 to the captial budget could lower this year or will be be doing what took place back in 2018 and extened the life cycle of the buses from 15 years to 18-21 years??

Only have to look at the 3rd garage that been kick down the road since 2011 that the city cannot add more buses to the existing fleet as there is no room for them at the current 2 garages.?? There was talked a year or so ago of ordering artic's in place of 40's to deal with overcrowding and close doors issues but how large will the fleet be that is mostly 40's as you are doing a 3 to 2 to maintain the existing space for 500 buses?? Right now, buses are been removed from various routes to increase service on X routes for more service and cutting service on those routes where buses are been removed to supply the routes needing more service.

Everything that you write only encourages me that the answer is to encourage as much higher density in all the areas surrounding MCC hurontario and port credit. We need to encourage as much walking, biking as possible. Even if it’s just to a “mall”. So my issue isn’t so much Mississauga transit because i don’t believe that there is a need or a way to serve within Mississauga. Things like waymo will be able to handle cul de sacs a lot better than transit stops far from people’s doors. Unless we’re going to rip out roads and roads of SFH and uprise this is the situation. As a result Transit needs to solve the how to get to Toronto faster. But that’s just my opinion.

 

[drum118]

Budget Committee

Date: October 01, 2025

Time: 1:30pm (Please note that the meeting will not begin prior to 1:30PM and is subject to the completion of the General Committee meeting)

Location: Council Chambers, Civic Centre, 2nd Floor

300 City Centre Drive, Mississauga, Ontario, L5B 3C1

and Online Video Conference

10.12

MiWay Fare Strategy - 2026

2026 MiWay Fare Strategy: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76569

Appendix 1: MiWay Transit Revenue 2026 Fees and Charges: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76570

GTA Fare and R/C ratio Comparison: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76571

 

[stevensontransit]

Budget Committee

Date: October 01, 2025

Time: 1:30pm (Please note that the meeting will not begin prior to 1:30PM and is subject to the completion of the General Committee meeting)

Location: Council Chambers, Civic Centre, 2nd Floor

300 City Centre Drive, Mississauga, Ontario, L5B 3C1

and Online Video Conference

10.12

MiWay Fare Strategy - 2026

2026 MiWay Fare Strategy: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76569

Appendix 1: MiWay Transit Revenue 2026 Fees and Charges: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76570

GTA Fare and R/C ratio Comparison: https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=76571

One of those reports says the current initial one fare term expires March 31, 2026. Giving all of the one fare popularity and success, do you believe the one fare program be extended beyond that date.

 

[drum118]

One of those reports says the current initial one fare term expires March 31, 2026. Giving all of the one fare popularity and success, do you believe the one fare program be extended beyond that date.View attachment 683758View attachment 683759View attachment 683760View attachment 683761
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I got to lauvgh at the numbers for Mississauga and Brampton as Mississauga saying its loosing money from Brampton riders and wants the province to kick in extra funding to cover Brampton riders using miway. One fare has been around since the 90's for the 905 systems with GO coming on about a decade ago and TTC the last few years.

Talks of One Fare for all systems including GO and TTC started in 2008 and the program needs to remain in place 100% permeantly if you want people to use transit and not drive. This free road space for those who think transit is not their cup of tea as well having space for those extra 2-3 million cars come 2040 for increase of population been plan for.

 

[stevensontransit]

I got to lauvgh at the numbers for Mississauga and Brampton as Mississauga saying its loosing money from Brampton riders and wants the province to kick in extra funding to cover Brampton riders using miway. One fare has been around since the 90's for the 905 systems with GO coming on about a decade ago and TTC the last few years.

Talks of One Fare for all systems including GO and TTC started in 2008 and the program needs to remain in place 100% permeantly if you want people to use transit and not drive. This free road space for those who think transit is not their cup of tea as well having space for those extra 2-3 million cars come 2040 for increase of population been plan for.

It must be permanent giving all of the results I showed in these photos!

 

[stevensontransit]

Service changes start on Monday, October 27

www.mississauga.ca

 

[ack]

Sad that they're forcing an express route on yet another street where this means worsening local frequency beyond 10 minutes. Doubly sad in this case because the 135 stops short of the subway and the 109 isn't being beefed up to compensate.

 

[drum118]

Going to General Committee on October 15
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Transit and Road Infrastructure Plan

https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=77197

Mississauga Transit and Road Infrastructure Plan Executive Summary

https://pub-mississauga.escribemeetings.com/filestream.ashx?DocumentId=77198

 

[doady]

It makes me angry whenever I see articulated buses on 39 Britannia. Every 20 minutes rush hour, every 32 minutes midday with articulated buses. The ridership has increased by over 3 times compared to 15 years ago, it has become one of the busiest routes in the city, but frequencies basically the same.