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Miller wasting more money:

syn said:
What exactly does the "advisor" job entail? Depending on what's involved $60,000 might not exactly be a lot.



You realize that perks like these have been part of the job long before Miller came to office, right?

Miller certainly isn't perfect but blaming everything on him is kind of silly.
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The 60k is a new motion, and was just past in late 2008. The Blue Jay ticket issue was up for a vote around the same time, and councillors could have voted to stop receiving them. Every cent counts. If the Mayor was concerned about the tax burden on his citizens then he would make it a point to cut things like this.

BTW, anyone remember when "Red" Ken Livingstone was in town a few years ago. This was durng the investigation of Police shakedowns in the entartainment district. Miller didnt know the cameras were rolling, and he turns over and asks Ken "So are your Police as corrupt as mine? When confronted later by citynews, he then apologized.

If Ford or Ootes or Minnan Wong ever did anything like that, they'd never hear the end of it.
 
Darren B said:
"So are your Police as corrupt as mine? When confronted later by citynews, he then apologized.
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Why would he apologize? We all now how corrupt some members of the Toronto Police force is - good grief, there have been enough corruption cases
 
nfitz said:
Why would he apologize? We all now how corrupt some members of the Toronto Police force is - good grief, there have been enough corruption cases
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Finally...I agree with you on something. But the Mayor was caught saying what he said, and then he had to retract it.

But, most police are not corrupt. I just met a really nice officer. I got pulled over driving the company car this afternoon. The sticker expired in Feb, ie yesterday...lol. Its not my responsability, but the company's to renew it. But if I got a ticket, then it would be on my record. The guy was nice enough to let me go after he saw the license and ownership.
 
Darren B said:
Finally...I agree with you on something. But the Mayor was caught saying what he said, and then he had to retract it.
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Only to save his police face; certainly not because anyone believes it was not true.

Darren B said:
But, most police are not corrupt. I just met a really nice officer. I got pulled over driving the company car this afternoon. The sticker expired in Feb, ie yesterday...lol. Its not my responsability, but the company's to renew it. But if I got a ticket, then it would be on my record. The guy was nice enough to let me go after he saw the license and ownership.
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Most are great! It's the few bad apples - and a systemic failure of the system, where most seem to try and ignore/protect each other, rather than reporting what I'm sure they all observe from time-to-time. Though things slowly seem to be improving.

And in many ways, we've got it much better than most cities. Look at Chicago, Detroit, or Washington, D.C. It's pretty normal there for the most senior politicians to be corrupt. Here we just complain about competence, there's been very little suggestion that there is the type of wholesale corruption that Americans seem to take for granted in their municipal politics.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Blame the socialists for that, obviously. Hold on tight for the ride - you might be putting up with socialist styled economic intervention for a while. If not, I suspect your leading non-bank securities dealership might not be around for long. Funnily enough, it was the private sector that pulled the economic through during the Great Depression, right?

AoD
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The number of socialist success stories really lends weight to your implied argument for socialism.
 
Earlscourt_Lad:

The number of socialist success stories really lends weight to your implied argument for socialism.
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I believe you are implying countries that are Communist by name, Stalinist (or mutations of such) by practice. There is quite different between those failures and western social democracies.

AoD
 
Surely, Canada is a big socialist success story; and certainly the survival (so far) of our banking sector in this recession compared to the USA and UK demonstrates that.
 
Thank god that the Tories hadn't been in power long enough to mess that up too much when things went south! Well not Harper's god ... :)
 
I hear Councillor McConnell used taxpayer's money to buy a third large cup of coffee on Thursday. Who needs THREE cups of coffee a day on the taxpayer's dime!?!? I also hear that not only did she not even finish the coffee, literally THROWING AWAY a quarter of that taxpayer-funded coffee, but she didn't even roll up the rim! If she had, she might of won $10,000 (which would have gone towards keeping the tax hike down since taxpayers paid for the coffee in the first place!)!!!

The first step to solving this city's financial crisis is to rein in councillors' out of control spending! Councillors who really care about the taxpayer should commit to buying only medium coffees from this point on! Only once we do this can we start to tackle the big issues!

Don't get me started on the Timbit budget.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Yes, and I suppose the last 30 years of Neo-liberal economic "stewardship" and me first attitude had finally come home to roost. Blame the socialists for that, obviously. Hold on tight for the ride - you might be putting up with socialist styled economic intervention for a while. If not, I suspect your leading non-bank securities dealership might not be around for long. Funnily enough, it was the private sector that pulled the economic through during the Great Depression, right?
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This is hardly the endgame for neoliberalism. The entire crisis was caused by, and finally precipitated by, government intervention. Fannie and Fredie? Not neoliberal. Government subsidies to mortgage holders? Not neoliberal. Lowering capitalization requirements for the express purpose of qualifying low income applicants for mortgages? Not neoliberal.

Really, the only "neoliberal" aspect of the crisis was that government more or less let investment banks do what they want. It isn't really surprising that they then invested in a public sector backed asset bubble (housing mortgages), and why wouldn't they? Unnaturally high returns and an implicit public guarantee that the investments wont go south.

And most historiography on the Great Depression does hold that the New Deal was either ineffective or counter productive. It is definitely not a lopsided love in for Keyensianism.
 
AoD:

Broadly speaking, yes I was implying that. However, my point remains, where are the socialist success stories? Not moderately socialist, or "arguably" socialist, but actual socialist countries that are thriving.
 
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