Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs

[robmausser]

How?

Buy penalizing Bombardier if they are late.

I was replying to the comment that was basically like "who cares if bombardier is late? None of the infrastructure is ready for Crosstown to support the LRTS, let them be late."

And I was saying no, thats not how you fix lateness.

 

[robmausser]

I was just commenting on the @jordanmkasla2009 post.....if those are the facts then there is no case.

The strategy you describe is kinda what ML tried with their suit about the Crosstown vehicles.....so, yeah, if paying more for less vehicles is a win then yes.....give it a shot

Not only that, you have to look at the bigger picture. These are not the last we will be seeing of Bombardier vehicles for other transit lines.

You have to show Bombardier that if they continue to be late, its not tolerated.

 

[nfitz]

You have to show Bombardier that if they continue to be late, its not tolerated.

Isn't it a bigger issue that Metrolinx wasted tens if not hundreds of millions paying penalties to Bombardier for shrinking the Flexity order, and ordering more expensive cars from Alstom?

How to you show Metrolinx that such fiscal irresponsibility won't be tolerated? I don't even see any cost issues from Bombardier's delays on the Metrolinx Flexity Freedoms. The first Alstom vehicle doesn't go into service until 2023 on Finch West. Do we really think Bombardier couldn't have manufactured 17 more extended-length Flexities in a 2-year period? They've already built about 130 of the shorter vehicles in North America for TTC and Waterloo.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

The first Alstom vehicle doesn't go into service until 2023 on Finch West

my question is if Metrolinx has nothing to show for Finch West when Alstrom is ready to ship the first train will they accept it or will they have them hold on to it until they have somewhere to put it?

 

[nfitz]

my question is if Metrolinx has nothing to show for Finch West when Alstrom is ready to ship the first train will they accept it or will they have them hold on to it until they have somewhere to put it?

No reason to think that Finch West won't proceed on a reasonable time frame, with the contracts all signed.

A biggest question might be not where the first 17 will go, but where will the next 44, if Metrolinx doesn't proceed with Hurontario or Hamilton LRTs quick enough.

 

[Allandale25]

It has arrived.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1082694495714586624

 

[nfitz]

They've figured out how to start service without building all the track and overhead too!

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

They've figured out how to start service without building all the track and overhead too!

They teased the people waiting for the bus !

 

[W. K. Lis]

It has arrived.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1082694495714586624

Where the Fiji water girl?

 

[Amare]

They've figured out how to start service without building all the track and overhead too!

I say they just start the service like that until it's fully ready for operation. I mean that's already an improvement over all the bad bus service scattered all over Eglinton.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

I say they just start the service like that until it's fully ready for operation. I mean that's already an improvement over all the bad bus service scattered all over Eglinton.

The bus is so bumpy, the "LRT" isn't

 

[Allandale25]

It has arrived.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1082694495714586624

Additional picture in this article. Shows the full truck and LRV.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/01...town-on-track-for-ttc-streetcar-delivery/amp/

 

[raptor]

From the article above:

 

[W. K. Lis]

They've figured out how to start service without building all the track and overhead too!

The light rail vehicle(s) will be put through it's paces around the Mount Dennis yard. Most of the track and overhead is done. This video is from September, 2018.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

The light rail vehicle(s) will be put through it's paces around the Mount Dennis yard. Most of the track and overhead is done. This video is from September, 2018.

That will be intresting to see. Around the yard, right ?