TheKingEast
Senior Member
King St has been PACKED the last few weeks with the good weather. I defy these restaurants to tell me they're losing money. The streets are alive!
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Juan_Lennon416
Senior Member
drum118
Superstar
Ridership was down in April, but still over 10% increase in ridership before pilot project started.
Weather will always have an impact on restaurants and other business. If they don't allow for this up and down cycle, they shouldn't be in business or real poor business planners.
Going to see more patios this year than the past
Weather will always have an impact on restaurants and other business. If they don't allow for this up and down cycle, they shouldn't be in business or real poor business planners.
Going to see more patios this year than the past
Leo_Chan
Senior Member
mdrejhon
Senior Member
When's the ribboncutting?
Or can I do some DIY ribboncutting?
*packs scissors*
Or can I do some DIY ribboncutting?
*packs scissors*
mrgrieves
Active Member
The installations between Simcoe and John look pretty shabby. During the day I very rarely see anyone sitting on the yellow lego milk crate thing. Maybe people don't want to sit on plywood...And for the pool noodle installation, a lot of the noodles have been ripped out. I get these are temporary installations not done by professionals and they are certainly creative, but IMO they contribute to the already shabby look of the street given the concrete barriers everywhere and the temporary ramps to board the streetcars.
steveintoronto
Superstar
It is pretty shabby, and even if there may not be that much actual dirt down there, it looks filthy, like what one expects Buffalo or Detroit to look like.
Toronto's third busiest transit route...it defies the senses that it's such an uphill battle to have done what's clearly only a fraction of what's necessary.
TransitBart
Senior Member
That will solve the problem with through traffic. We got a transit mall by stealth. This is interesting and the whole thing (pilot) is probably an improvement in gridlock. But I failed completely to grasp that the ‘pilot’ meant narrowing the street to two lanes.
steveintoronto
Superstar
Actually not. Much of the King Street Pilot was already narrowed to two lanes. This will impeded cycling traffic more though, even as an avid cyclist, something I agree with. Pedestrian traffic will also have to be controlled from blocking the tracks as well save for marked crossings.
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As narrowing the street and improving the pedestrian realm was clearly one of the major intentions and obvious from the plans I am amazed that this is only striking you now, 6 months later.
Leo_Chan
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syn
Senior Member
It looks like someone went to Home Depot for garden supplies and just left it all on the side of the road.
syn
Senior Member
That probably would've deterred drivers too.
TransitBart
Senior Member
A significant issue with this set up and state of affairs now is that bicycles and streetcars are competing for the same (piddly 2-lane) space. If it is our plan to keep this, I think that the cross town bike lanes should be removed from Adelaide and Richmond (restoring two lanes) and that they should be planned into King (which has apparently not only restricted, but removed two in many places.) I personally dislike the lanes on Adelaide and Richmond a lot. They are too busy and the streets are busy too. Notwithstanding the streetcars, there is a good deal more space on King these days for bicycles.
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Leo_Chan
Senior Member
How would forced right turns work in this situation though?