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cdl42
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Then where does one go if they wish to learn?
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tudararms
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No, the fact is there are only 10 "commandments".
For your own enlightenment on this issue check out the following link: www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibx.htm
My point is not to tell you which one is right or wrong, though I have my own clear opinion on this, rather to show you how enormously opinions and interpretations of the same material can diverge. Religious tolerance is about believing one particular interpretation while accepting and respecting that others may not.
For your own enlightenment on this issue check out the following link: www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibx.htm
My point is not to tell you which one is right or wrong, though I have my own clear opinion on this, rather to show you how enormously opinions and interpretations of the same material can diverge. Religious tolerance is about believing one particular interpretation while accepting and respecting that others may not.
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Abeja de Almirante
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I'd read the bible as a start. See what it says about you and your ideals.Then where does one go if they wish to learn?
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Abeja de Almirante
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I 100% agree, and wouldn't say anything to the contrary. Do what makes you happy.Religious tolerance is about believing one particular interpretation while accepting and respecting that others may not.
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cdl42
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"I'd read the bible as a start. See what it says about you and your ideals."
You really think it's that easy to just dive in without any assistance, interpretation, or context? The Bible isn't a "DIY Christianity" book. You're not going to find many Christians whose first act was diving in to over 1000 pages of historical text written in non-standard english, nor will you find it in any other religion.
You really think it's that easy to just dive in without any assistance, interpretation, or context? The Bible isn't a "DIY Christianity" book. You're not going to find many Christians whose first act was diving in to over 1000 pages of historical text written in non-standard english, nor will you find it in any other religion.
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Abeja de Almirante
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I said as a start. I never said read it in isolation. Read it, and then ask those you trust along the way about what you've read.You really think it's that easy to just dive in without any assistance, interpretation, or context?
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simply Dan
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From the BBC: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...207066.stm
Israel 'presses US on bomb sale'
By Nick Miles
BBC News, Washington
Reports from the US suggest Washington has been asked to speed up a shipment of precision bombs sold as part of a deal with Israel last year.
According to a report in the New York Times, Israel made the request after it began its air assault on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon 12 days ago.
The weapons, including five-tonne laser-guided bombs, are part of a sale signed last year.
Unnamed US officials say the request to speed up delivery is unusual.
The disclosure is likely to anger Arab governments because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding Israel at such a sensitive time.
Precision-guided missiles are playing a key part in Israel's military strategy, which has included attempts to destroy bunkers it says are used by Hezbollah.
Israel is one of the largest customers for US armaments.
It also receives several billion dollars a year in direct and indirect aid from Washington.
Israel 'presses US on bomb sale'
By Nick Miles
BBC News, Washington
Reports from the US suggest Washington has been asked to speed up a shipment of precision bombs sold as part of a deal with Israel last year.
According to a report in the New York Times, Israel made the request after it began its air assault on Hezbollah targets in Lebanon 12 days ago.
The weapons, including five-tonne laser-guided bombs, are part of a sale signed last year.
Unnamed US officials say the request to speed up delivery is unusual.
The disclosure is likely to anger Arab governments because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding Israel at such a sensitive time.
Precision-guided missiles are playing a key part in Israel's military strategy, which has included attempts to destroy bunkers it says are used by Hezbollah.
Israel is one of the largest customers for US armaments.
It also receives several billion dollars a year in direct and indirect aid from Washington.
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simply Dan
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Also from the BBC today: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...207478.stm
UN appalled by Beirut devastation
The UN's Jan Egeland has condemned the devastation caused by Israeli air strikes in Beirut, saying it is a violation of humanitarian law.
Mr Egeland, the UN's emergency relief chief, described the destruction as "horrific" as he toured the city.
He arrived hours after another Israeli strike on Beirut. Israel also hit Sidon, a port city in the south crammed with refugees, for the first time.
In Haifa, two people were killed amid a volley of rockets on the Israeli city.
Fifteen people are reported injured by the rockets, launched by Hezbollah militants over the border with Lebanon.
The BBC News website's Raffi Berg visited the scene of one of the rocket attacks in northern Haifa.
He says the rocket exploded next to a carriageway, raking passing cars with shrapnel and ball bearings and killing a man in a nearby vehicle.
'Block after block'
Mr Egeland arrived in southern Beirut on Sunday just hours after Israeli strikes on the Hezbollah stronghold.
A visibly moved Mr Egeland expressed shock that "block after block" of buildings had been levelled.
He said the "disproportionate response" by Israel was a "violation of international humanitarian law".
He appealed for both sides to halt attacks and said UN supplies of humanitarian aid would begin to arrive in the next few days.
"But we need safe access," he said. "So far Israel is not giving us access."
Israel has said it will lift its blockade on Beirut's port to allow aid through, but with roads, bridges and trucks among Israel's targets, transporting it around the country is difficult.
In other developments:
UK Foreign Minister Kim Howells is due to meet Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. A day after accusing Israel of targeting "the entire Lebanese nation", he said the British government understood Israel's need to defend itself and criticised Hezbollah for hiding weapons in civilian areas.
The US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is due to leave for the Middle East later on Sunday.
Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz said Israel supports the idea of an international peacekeeping force in south Lebanon, and suggested it should be led by Nato.
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel had "pushed the button for its own destruction".
Syria's information minister said his country would enter the conflict if a major Israeli ground invasion of Lebanon threatened the security of Damascus.
An unarmed UN observer was seriously wounded by small arms fire - thought to be from Hezbollah - at a UN position in the village of Maroun al-Ras, which Israeli said it had taken control of on Saturday.
Sidon targeted
Israel's bombing campaign continued, with strikes on Beirut and on southern and eastern Lebanon in the early hours of Sunday.
The Associated Press news agency reported at least eight deaths on Sunday - an eight-year-old boy, a Lebanese photographer, three civilians fleeing in a minibus, and three Hezbollah fighters.
One target was the southern port of Sidon, a city not previously targeted by Israel, where 42,000 refugees from the surrounding area have flooded in the hope of safety.
The BBC's Roger Hearing in the city reports that a mosque was destroyed in one strike, which hit less than 500m (550 yards) from a hospital. At least four people were injured.
While Israel said the mosque was a meeting place for Hezbollah militants, local doctors insisted it was just "a place for prayers".
Bombing intensifies
The BBC's Jim Muir in the southern city of Tyre says there has also been intense bombardment there, striking at least nine civilian vehicles. Some were hit within sight of hospitals where they were trying to take injured people, he says.
Further east, engineers trying to mend impassable roads to allow a UN-escorted aid convoy also came under fire, our correspondent reports.
He says that bombing has intensified in the region since Israel dropped warning leaflets on Friday, and the Israelis are now shooting at almost anything on moving on the roads.
More than 350 Lebanese have been killed in the 11 days of violence, many of them civilians, and angry protests condemning Israeli attacks have been held in cities around the world.
At least 36 Israelis have been killed, including 17 civilians killed by rockets fired by Hezbollah into Israel.
UN appalled by Beirut devastation
The UN's Jan Egeland has condemned the devastation caused by Israeli air strikes in Beirut, saying it is a violation of humanitarian law.
Mr Egeland, the UN's emergency relief chief, described the destruction as "horrific" as he toured the city.
He arrived hours after another Israeli strike on Beirut. Israel also hit Sidon, a port city in the south crammed with refugees, for the first time.
In Haifa, two people were killed amid a volley of rockets on the Israeli city.
Fifteen people are reported injured by the rockets, launched by Hezbollah militants over the border with Lebanon.
The BBC News website's Raffi Berg visited the scene of one of the rocket attacks in northern Haifa.
He says the rocket exploded next to a carriageway, raking passing cars with shrapnel and ball bearings and killing a man in a nearby vehicle.
'Block after block'
Mr Egeland arrived in southern Beirut on Sunday just hours after Israeli strikes on the Hezbollah stronghold.
A visibly moved Mr Egeland expressed shock that "block after block" of buildings had been levelled.
He said the "disproportionate response" by Israel was a "violation of international humanitarian law".
He appealed for both sides to halt attacks and said UN supplies of humanitarian aid would begin to arrive in the next few days.
"But we need safe access," he said. "So far Israel is not giving us access."
Israel has said it will lift its blockade on Beirut's port to allow aid through, but with roads, bridges and trucks among Israel's targets, transporting it around the country is difficult.
In other developments:
UK Foreign Minister Kim Howells is due to meet Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni. A day after accusing Israel of targeting "the entire Lebanese nation", he said the British government understood Israel's need to defend itself and criticised Hezbollah for hiding weapons in civilian areas.
The US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is due to leave for the Middle East later on Sunday.
Israeli Defence Minister Amir Peretz said Israel supports the idea of an international peacekeeping force in south Lebanon, and suggested it should be led by Nato.
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel had "pushed the button for its own destruction".
Syria's information minister said his country would enter the conflict if a major Israeli ground invasion of Lebanon threatened the security of Damascus.
An unarmed UN observer was seriously wounded by small arms fire - thought to be from Hezbollah - at a UN position in the village of Maroun al-Ras, which Israeli said it had taken control of on Saturday.
Sidon targeted
Israel's bombing campaign continued, with strikes on Beirut and on southern and eastern Lebanon in the early hours of Sunday.
The Associated Press news agency reported at least eight deaths on Sunday - an eight-year-old boy, a Lebanese photographer, three civilians fleeing in a minibus, and three Hezbollah fighters.
One target was the southern port of Sidon, a city not previously targeted by Israel, where 42,000 refugees from the surrounding area have flooded in the hope of safety.
The BBC's Roger Hearing in the city reports that a mosque was destroyed in one strike, which hit less than 500m (550 yards) from a hospital. At least four people were injured.
While Israel said the mosque was a meeting place for Hezbollah militants, local doctors insisted it was just "a place for prayers".
Bombing intensifies
The BBC's Jim Muir in the southern city of Tyre says there has also been intense bombardment there, striking at least nine civilian vehicles. Some were hit within sight of hospitals where they were trying to take injured people, he says.
Further east, engineers trying to mend impassable roads to allow a UN-escorted aid convoy also came under fire, our correspondent reports.
He says that bombing has intensified in the region since Israel dropped warning leaflets on Friday, and the Israelis are now shooting at almost anything on moving on the roads.
More than 350 Lebanese have been killed in the 11 days of violence, many of them civilians, and angry protests condemning Israeli attacks have been held in cities around the world.
At least 36 Israelis have been killed, including 17 civilians killed by rockets fired by Hezbollah into Israel.
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ganjavih
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And people say Canada is the 51st state. Israel gets billions of US dollars no strings attached every year, and we get softwood lumber tariffs.
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Abeja de Almirante
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Demand creates customers and supply. Israel's got neighbours to wack, and the US makes the means. Let's not forget that many of Israel's greatest military gear has non-USA origins, it's earlier marks of Merkava tanks had French and IIRC British guns. One of its most famous aircraft the Kfir is a copy of the French Mirage (and served alongside many of the true Mirages sold to Israel by the French). The missiles and guns on its fleet are mostly European designs. Israel may have American F-15 and F-16 aircraft, but the Israeli military is far from an exclusively US-brand.Israel is one of the largest customers for US armaments.
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caltrane74
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Pro Israel..100% and pro Israeli women 110%
Im gonna take a one month vacation in Tel Aviv and see whats up. - I would go to Teheran but I dont think I would be allowed to spit game on honies on the street there. Alas.
The people of Israel share not only my values. But the values of my country. --- Freedom , Democracy things like that. Which are kinda cool eh.
Im gonna take a one month vacation in Tel Aviv and see whats up. - I would go to Teheran but I dont think I would be allowed to spit game on honies on the street there. Alas.
The people of Israel share not only my values. But the values of my country. --- Freedom , Democracy things like that. Which are kinda cool eh.