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INCENTIVES - Condo builders roll out the barrel

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With sales in the doldrums, marketing swings into high gear. 'Free' Mercedes anyone?

TERRENCE BELFORD
From Friday's Globe and Mail
March 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM EDT

January new condo sales figures are in. And yes, the results are dismal. Only 217 new suites were sold that month, a marginal increase from the 198 sold in December, 2008.

The results came as no surprise. Fears about family finances and job losses, and perhaps the faint hope that prices will come down has kept potential buyers at home.

So will things get better? Undoubtedly. Developers are busy trying to come up with incentives short of price reductions that will draw buyers to their sales offices, and surveys show a significant chunk of the population does plan to buy a new home during the next two years.

The only issue up in the air is when.

"Right now, every developer is looking at just what incentives can be offered to kick-start sales," says George Carras, president of RealNet Canada Inc., which tracks housing in the Greater Toronto Area. "They are especially concerned about remaining inventory in completed buildings."

If you need an example of just how far some developers are willing to go to get people lined up at presentation centres, take a look at Concord Adex Developments, creator of both Concord CityPlace at Spadina Avenue and Front Street West and Concord Park Place on the south side of Sheppard Avenue East, just west of Leslie Street.

On March 28, Concord Adex will offer a 20-per-cent cash rebate of the total purchase price on any suite in either project to the first 20 buyers who sign deals on that day. The cash is payable by cheque on closing and not deducted from the purchase price.

Concord Adex calls it a 20/20 deal. It celebrates the company's 20th year in business.

Last month, it made a similar offer to real estate agents plus 15-per-cent cash back on closing to any other buyers after that first 20. The cash-back incentive resulted in about 40 suites being snapped up by agents within a three-hour period.

In Richmond, B.C., Polygon Homes went as far as offering a new Mercedes-Benz ML320 to anyone buying one of its townhouses, Mr. Carras says. That time, the celebration was for Chinese New Year.

"They just about sold out," he says.

A word of warning here. The idea of a new Mercedes as well as a new home may sound terrific but that approach may backfire when it comes to arranging financing needed to close the deal.

Expect the men and women who appraise the market value of your new suite on behalf of lenders to deduct from the purchase price anything that does not add intrinsic value to the unit itself. Lenders are only concerned with the real estate, not the perks that may come with it such as cars, boats, furnishings or club memberships.

If you get a free car, they will knock the price of that car off what you paid for the suite and base your mortgage on that. The result could be having to come up with another $15,000 to $20,000 on closing.

"You have to consider whether those incentives offered add value to your suite," Mr. Carras says. "Things like upgrades, lower down payments, a period of free maintenance payments are great. New cars are not."

Now back to buyer demand. A survey from Royal Bank of Canada polled 2,026 adult Canadians coast to coast during the first week of January and found 27 per cent said they would be buying a new home within the next two years. That's a significant gain from the 23 per cent reported a year earlier.

In the under-35 age group, a whopping 48 per cent said they would be in the market compared with 36 per cent last year. Among renters, it was 38 per cent.

Part of the reason behind increased demand is the belief that housing prices will drop this year. About 54 per cent said prices will be lower than in 2008, compared with 31 per cent a year earlier.

"The current economic environment does not appear to have dampened Canadians' overall confidence in the housing market," says Karen Leggett, head of home equity financing at RBC. "Low mortgage rates and favourable prices are influencing home purchase intentions this year and may be the reason why more Canadians are poised to purchase within the next two years."

The key question, of course, is when will all those people start translating intent into action. The next few months may provide some insight.

"Every developer in town has spent the past few months figuring out what can be done to bring people back to sales offices," Mr. Carras says. "I think this month you will start to see the result of their brainstorming."
 
Value of Incentives

Whatever the incentives may be, in most cases they are simply taken off the purchase price on final closing.
 
Current Incentives

Does anyone know of any good incentives currently being offered? There is talk of builder's offering lower deposits etc., but does anyone know of any 'great' offers?
 
if you look around ... you'll see a number of the new condo projects offer $20K - $40K off their selling price ... and some are offering 5% deposite (but getting 95% financing from a bank is next to impossible nowadays)
 
I know that Park Lake's incentives nearly doubled, since the Fall. The offers
end on March 31st, and I don't know if they're getting any better. One would
assume that people would purchase more during the Summer?
 
if you look around ... you'll see a number of the new condo projects offer $20K - $40K off their selling price ... and some are offering 5% deposite (but getting 95% financing from a bank is next to impossible nowadays)

I hear this, but I just don't see it. The prices still seem to be fairly high to me. I haven't heard of any deals or discounts besides Concorde's
 
The deals might be hiked up before being discounted. It might be the higher units that costs and arm and a leg? Or else the cost is boosted up to meet the rest of the high priced units in 2008. So shaving 20% even brings it back down to normal price. For concord, it's hard to say if it's a deal. If the units are selling at over $600/sq ft. Is it really still a deal with 20% off?
 
What is a real discount?

The deals might be hiked up before being discounted. It might be the higher units that costs and arm and a leg? Or else the cost is boosted up to meet the rest of the high priced units in 2008. So shaving 20% even brings it back down to normal price. For concord, it's hard to say if it's a deal. If the units are selling at over $600/sq ft. Is it really still a deal with 20% off?

AKS: builders may not "jack up" prices, they are simply left with 2007/2008 inventory at unrealistic price.

The question of value: an item is only wroth what one is willing to pay for it. Builders know this and are a lot more flexible on prices now, realizing their cost of building at fixed rate and looking out for margins without carrying the units on for too long.
 
This may be true...

I went to a site yesterday and they were dropping the price on a good amount of units from $550 PSF down to $425-$450 PSF. Pretty great deal.

Then another site was offering 20Grand off + a locker
 
really if they went back to selling those single condo's for 130-150k, I would imagine sooner or latter things would pick back up.
 
"In the under-35 age group, a whopping 48 per cent said they would be in the market compared with 36 per cent last year. Among renters, it was 38 per cent."

Need to varify this but check out the demographics of people age 25-35 in Ontario. There have basically never been fewer people in this age range as a percentage of the total population as there is now. Even if people are buying like crazy in this demographic the impact on the overall market will not be large by historical standards.
 
"In the under-35 age group, a whopping 48 per cent said they would be in the market compared with 36 per cent last year. Among renters, it was 38 per cent."

It's also the demographic that has not experienced a true recession or RE downturn since the global economies started a decade+ long expansion since the mid-1990s.

They were 20 years old or younger then and invincible. :rolleyes:
 
Young Buyers

It's also the demographic that has not experienced a true recession or RE downturn since the global economies started a decade+ long expansion since the mid-1990s.

They were 20 years old or younger then and invincible. :rolleyes:

... yes... but their parents have... and now the baby boomers are buying properties for their kids.
 

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