Tell that to the family of the victim. You are against "killing prisoners" even when they had no qualms about killing themselves.
What does prisoners committing suicide have to do with anything?
Hypocrisy anybody? By your ridiculous logic Canada was a "barbaric" country 50 years ago. Do you honestly believe that Canada was a barbaric country in the mid-20th c. It was not.
Society has grown. We've all come to understand that capital punishment isn't right. In this particular case it appears to be mental illness.
One has to be a particularly twisted piece of shit to support the execution of children or insane. Not even the US does that!
Sorry, but you're wrong. Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion doesn't make them "barbaric". My viewpoint is no more barbaric than yours.
Depends ... if they disagree with my choice of ice cream it doesn't make them barbaric. If they want to kill people simply to satisfy their own blood lust, then it does.
I thought it was obvious that what I was calling for was for guilty people. I guess I should have made that more clear. But in this case no one can question who did it. After the other passengers fled there were only two people left on the bus. Nowhere did I state that I assumed everyone arrested for murder was guilty.
Canada and the US have executed plenty of people who turned out to be innocent. We still have Canadians who are living who used to be on death row, who turned out to be innocent. In the US they still execute them. I 100% agree that this is not the case here. But we've long since proved that executing people does nothing to lower the murder rate. The US murder rate fell while capital punishement was halted. It remains lower in states that don't have it than many that do. It is far lower in Canada than the US. It fell dramatically in Canada after we ended capital punishment for murder in 1976 (
see Figure 1 of attached). So we capital punishment isn't a deterrence. Heck it may even encourage murder - a variant of
death by cop.
So why else would we execute people? We've eliminated as a general punishment because it doesn't reduce the murder rate, and it often gets the wrong person - making appeal somewhat difficult.
What's left - saving money (doubtful), or vengance. Either is barbaric.
And then there's the issue of executing someone who is clearly insane. Even the United States has barred that practice, as it is "
cruel and unusual punishment"
No. But if you want to move to another country, don't let me stop you.
Why? Doesn't look like too many here agree with you. There doesn't seem to be much support among Canadians for it. I'm sure most wouldn't lose much sleep if the likes of Bernado or Olson were executed ... but after that it's a pretty slippery slope.