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Greyhound: Apart from that, how was your experience today?

AKS said:
That's probably their subconsciousness. Everyone has a good and bad side to them. It's just your education that teaches you from doing right or wrong.
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Sounds scary. You seem to be saying that we're inclined to do or at least think of doing evil things, but that our conscious stops us from acting upon those urges.

I remember reading about a college study where a large minority of male students said that would commit a sexual assault if they were 100% guaranteed to get away with it. Of course, for the majority of us who are atheists, there really isn't a downside to just taking what you want.

Now, why can't tourettes sufferers shout out nice words?
 
cowpie said:
I wonder how many people just game the system though. I had a former friend who got a free apartment because he seemed to pretend to be (or at least exaggerate) bipolar. As he told me, "hey it's not too bad."
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Probably not very many. Wiki says:

Media coverage in the United States tends to dictate how situations are perceived by the public. A case using the insanity defense usually receives a lot more media attention because it is considered unusual or dramatic. This increased coverage gives the impression that the defense is widely used but this is not the case. According to an eight-state study the insanity defense is used in less than 1% of all court cases and is only successful in 26% of cases. Of those cases that were successful, 90% of defendants had been previously diagnosed with mental illness. [11] The early-2000s cases of Lee Boyd Malvo and Andrea Yates are examples of high-profile use of the insanity defense; both are characterised by their dramatic circumstances.
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Admiral Beez said:
Sounds scary. You seem to be saying that we're inclined to do or at least think of doing evil things, but that our conscious stops us from acting upon those urges.

I remember reading about a college study where a large minority of male students said that would commit a sexual assault if they were 100% guaranteed to get away with it. Of course, for the majority of us who are atheists, there really isn't a downside to just taking what you want.

Now, why can't tourettes sufferers shout out nice words?
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whaa?? where did that come out of???
 
Admiral Beez said:
Now, why can't tourettes sufferers shout out nice words?
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Most people with Tourettes don't shout anything. They get coughs, tics, eye blinks, and other symptoms instead.

The ones that shout are simply the most visible so, of course, they were the first to be researched and are the most talked about.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Sounds scary. You seem to be saying that we're inclined to do or at least think of doing evil things, but that our conscious stops us from acting upon those urges.

I remember reading about a college study where a large minority of male students said that would commit a sexual assault if they were 100% guaranteed to get away with it. Of course, for the majority of us who are atheists, there really isn't a downside to just taking what you want.

Now, why can't tourettes sufferers shout out nice words?
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not sure I understood that o_O

My theory is that it depends on the environment people were brought up in. People could end up doing good or bad things. It's inborn in people. Whether you do good or bad depends what you decide and/or how you were brought up. Course, just because you were brought up and taught what certain rules are good and bad doesn't mean you will follow. Like not all people who go to church are angels. But not everyone who doesn't go to church aren't good people either. You've seen enough bugs bunny shows where they show the evil and good one competing. That's just the basic idea what some may go through. The Gollum from LOTR is an example of it too. We may not speak out loud, but in our minds we probably have these thoughts. You don't do certain things because you were told it's wrong to do it.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Sorry, I was re-reading the religion thread and that slipped in.
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okay? you weren't serious were you?

p.s, it's a good thing you fear god. imagine all the bad thing you'd do if you weren't scared into being "good"!
 
Admiral Beez said:
No, not really. I never bought into that fearing god stuff. That said, what motivates us to be good?
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our biology. what motivates animals who have no concept of god to be good to each other? an evolutionary reason. a species can't survive if it's individual members are divided against each other. cooperation in the same species = survival. monogamy, care for an ill member, etc, are concepts present in nature. there is even a type of bird that shuns female members that cheat on their partners!

people who hear voices of god in their head, cut out body parts of other people and eat them are literally fu<ked in the head. there is either something wrong with the wiring in their brain (due to injury, some genetic defect, etc) or the functioning of their brain is somehow temporarily changed by the ingestion of a substance.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Why can't they ever hear nice voices?
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That's actually an interesting question that schizophrenia researchers are trying to answer. Auditory hallucinations are most often negative. They're often insults, taunts, threats, nasty commands, etc.
 
You think he should be locked up forever? What if he's medicated and no longer homicidal?
 
Locking up someone and not letting them have even escorted walks inside the grounds of a mental health facility is quite plausibly the most surefire way to ensure that individual stays insane. That outcome serves the interest of absolutely no-one.

AoD
 
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