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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Bojaxs said:
Does 8 trips = 8 trains, or 8 trips = 16 trains?
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This was posted by WB62 on a Discord server:

From what I’ve been able to gather, this will be the service beginning, stopping, or terminating at Confederation GO from October 27th:

Monday-Friday:

Confederation 05:50-Union Station 07:17

Confederation 06:51-Union Station 08:18

Confederation 07:34-Union Station 09:04 - NF

Confederation 11:08-Union Station 12:45

Confederation 14:04-Union Station 15:27 - NF

Confederation 19:07-Union Station 20:45

Confederation 21:01-Union Station 22:26 - NF


Union Station 09:10-Confederation 10:35 - NF

Union Station 11:47-Confederation 13:24

Union Station 16:00-Confederation 17:26

Union Station 17:00-Confederation 18:25 - NF

Union Station 18:47-Confederation 20:24

Union Station 22:07-Confederation 23:32 - NF


Saturday-Sunday:

Confederation 07:07-Union Station 08:45

Confederation 08:07-Union Station 09:45

Confederation 09:07-Union Station 10:45

Confederation 12:55-Union Station 14:25 - NF

Confederation 16:57-Union Station 18:24 - NF

Confederation 19:07-Union Station 20:45

Confederation 20:55-Union Station 22:23 - NF

Confederation 23:01-Union Station 00:29 - NF


Union Station 09:04-Confederation 10:29 - NF

Union Station 11:09-Confederation 12:34 - NF

Union Station 14:47-Confederation 16:23

Union Station 17:07-Confederation 18:32 - NF

Union Station 18:47-Confederation 20:24

Union Station 19:22-Confederation 20:47 - NF

Union Station 20:47-Confederation 22:24

All trips beginning or ending at Confederation come or go to Lewis Road Yard, no trips turn around at Confederation.

NF are the Niagara Falls trips, those trip departure times are not officially defined, I based those off the existing trip times to West Harbour, plus or minus the travel time to Confederation (15 minutes).
 
How exactly can you reduce staffing requirements?

You need a driver, you need the CSA to operate the doors and be in charge of everything, and, if my recent experiences are anything to go by, you need someone to respond to a yellow alarm on nearly every train... I don't see a lot of room for downsizing.
 
T3G said:
How exactly can you reduce staffing requirements?

You need a driver, you need the CSA to operate the doors and be in charge of everything, and, if my recent experiences are anything to go by, you need someone to respond to a yellow alarm on nearly every train... I don't see a lot of room for downsizing.
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GO typically operates with 3 staff, 2 in the cab, plus the CSA.
 
Northern Light said:
GO typically operates with 3 staff, 2 in the cab, plus the CSA.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. I can't see how DB proposed to reduce the staffing requirements, unless they were to axe the second person in the cab, which seems unworkable to me unless you have the CSA respond to alarms instead, which in turn is a thought not compatible with the extreme frequencies GO Expansion promised once.
 
T3G said:
That's exactly what I'm saying. I can't see how DB proposed to reduce the staffing requirements, unless they were to axe the second person in the cab, which seems unworkable to me unless you have the CSA respond to alarms instead, which in turn is a thought not compatible with the extreme frequencies GO Expansion promised once.
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Well, considering how many systems worldwide operate with one in the cab and one onboard, I wouldn’t say never.
What DB underestimated was, just how much change is needed for that to work here, both in equipment and physical plant, and in the operating and regulatory regimes.
However…. Ultimately it can and should be done, but patiently and with a sufficiently rigourous pkan.

- Paul
 
WB62 said:
Which is exactly what happens, the CSA responds to all onboard emergencies.
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I ride the GO train daily, and usually do so in the accessibility coach since it's centralized, and almost every day I hear on the PA that a crew member is on their way to assist (if this is a widespread vandalism campaign or if there's an epidemic of GO train passengers having emergencies), and not once have I seen the CSA go to assist, it's always one of the crew members.
 
T3G said:
I ride the GO train daily, and usually do so in the accessibility coach since it's centralized, and almost every day I hear on the PA that a crew member is on their way to assist (if this is a widespread vandalism campaign or if there's an epidemic of GO train passengers having emergencies), and not once have I seen the CSA go to assist, it's always one of the crew members.
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The CSA is the only person onboard that assists to the priority alarm every time. The defibrillator and narcan kit, which both have to be taken to the coach the strip was pressed in every time, is located inside the accessibility coach cabinet.

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If revenue protection or transit safety/special constables happens to be onboard (which happens on a really small percentage trips), they can also choose to go to the coach with the alarm if they know which coach it’s in.

Transit safety/all Metrolinx employees on the ground have no way to communicate with train crews, so the CSA has to respond anyway, regardless if Metrolinx staff are onboard or responding.
 
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Most recently this afternoon, I was sitting on the bottom floor of the accessibility coach and an alarm sounded right as we were leaving Union. I could see the CSA the whole time, someone else got on the PA saying that help was on the way, and the CSA remained where he was the whole time. And this has happened a bunch of times in the past few weeks, too.
 
E•MO•TION said:
However, there are several layers to the policy which may restrict when and how the CSA responds to the alarm, which may not necessarily be immediately after the Conductor makes the "Code 10-33" announcement over the PA.
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I didn’t want to make my post longer but the process apparently did change within the past year.

Previously the CSA was to respond immediately or on platform if at or approaching a station, now the process is to respond after departing the next station.

Obviously theres some leeway with this, if the train just departed St. Catharines, an alarm won’t go unattended until after West Harbour, although I’ve personally seen a 20 minute wait while the train made its way through Bradford.
 
Allandale25 said:
www.cp24.com

Metrolinx pauses Lakeshore West track work for Blue Jays ALCS home games

Metrolinx says it’s pausing major track work on the Lakeshore West Line this weekend to help fans get to and from the Toronto Blue Jays’ ALCS home games.
www.cp24.com www.cp24.com
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@crs1026 will be terribly impressed. LOL

I'm sure he's duly awaiting a Metrolinx update on GO Expansion - "Due to the Jays playoff run in 2025, we're now 4 years behind schedule. Who knew those weekends were so crucial? Not us! "

Variation on Biblical quote for the above; " a day with Metrolinx is like a 1,000 days...." (I was tempted to stick to years....... LOL)
 
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