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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Here's my annual commuter rail summary:
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https://ontariotrafficman.wordpress.com/2024/01/02/canadian-commuter-rail-summary-2023/
There are actually 7 departures at 5pm on the PM Lakeshore West peak, I’m not sure if that counts or not
 
It was mayhem for pedestrians on the street with people running wild to get to/from the fireworks that people were been pushed all over the place by these impatience people. The smell of weed was in the air.
Must be that reefer madness they tried to warn us about!
 
Those crowd shots are eye watering. While Metrolinx should take some of the blame for not running more service, let's be real - if you're traveling on NYE, it's kinda on you 🤣

Those shots in the bay concourse are likely the people trying to get onto the subway. If anything, this is the TTC's fault for thinking that demand is not back to normal after the pandemic.
 
This level crowding is very much beyond the realm of "normal". I don't think any level of additional subway service could have prevented a catastrophe like this.
 
Last time I found that post-game mess at York, I got to the Bay end and found similar from a huge concert getting out of Skydome. And then made a dash over an empty platform to the Bay East teamway to get on a train!

I would not answer the temptation to cross a track in the depot, partly because it is quite unsafe, but also because there are enough security people at platform level that you might actually get stopped and ticketed.
But.... what I have developed a habit of doing when arriving at peak times, is crossing through any parked train on the other side of my arriving train's platform that has doors on both sides open, to avoid queuing up to get down the stairwells. Only a slight risk of having the doors slam shut, taking me to someplace I didn't plan on visiting (quite possibly Willowbrook lol) and usually the next platform over is not crowded and I get down the stairs much faster.

- Paul
 
They were running trains every 15 minutes on Lakeshore West after midnight. Assuming they were all 12-car sets (I really hope they were), that's a crush load capacity of over 12,000 people per hour on LSW alone.

Here are the capacities of the services they ran last night during the peak hour (00:30-01:30)
4 tph (12,000 pph) Lakeshore West
1 tph (3,000 pph) Milton
2 tph (6,000 pph) Lakeshore East
2 tph (6,000 pph) Kitchener
1 tph (3,000 pph) Barrie
1 tph (3,000 pph) Richmond Hill
1 tph (3,000 pph) Stouffville

In total that's a capacity of 36,000 people per hour between 00:30 and 01:30.

Part of the issue may have been crowd distribution. In previous years crowds have been very unevenly distributed throughout the station and throughout the trains, resulting in severe overcrowding in some areas and some coaches, while other areas and coaches had spare capacity. Given how crowded the trains are, maybe they should add some express services. With such crowding it takes forever at each stop for people to get off the train to make room for people to exit, then get back on again.

I'd say that 36,000 pph is insufficient even without seeing the photos of the crowd. Probably double that and you might get close to moving everyone through the station. I get it, there's staffing issues, but we were downtown last year for NYE and it was a crush load crowd then too.

Imagine a hypothetical weekend day where there is an event at Rogers Centre, and SBA, that's nearly 100,000 people along counting fans & event staff. Add in other venues such as Sony Centre etc, and that people have begun to return to the entertainment (club) district, and other hangers on just because. Now we are probably looking at 200,000 to 300,000 people. Not to mention BMO field, bud stage, Coca Cola Colosseum.

For NYE I wouldn't be surprised if there were close to 750,000 people DT.
 
I'd say that 36,000 pph is insufficient even without seeing the photos of the crowd. Probably double that and you might get close to moving everyone through the station. I get it, there's staffing issues, but we were downtown last year for NYE and it was a crush load crowd then too.

Imagine a hypothetical weekend day where there is an event at Rogers Centre, and SBA, that's nearly 100,000 people along counting fans & event staff. Add in other venues such as Sony Centre etc, and that people have begun to return to the entertainment (club) district, and other hangers on just because. Now we are probably looking at 200,000 to 300,000 people. Not to mention BMO field, bud stage, Coca Cola Colosseum.

For NYE I wouldn't be surprised if there were close to 750,000 people DT.

I wonder if we will hear any hard passenger counts or official estimates about this NYE - it would be interesting to know how this evening compared to other major downtown events eg the Raptors victory parade comes to mind.

Even then, NYE is extreme in that there is a fairly "hard stop" after the event, where everyone tries to get home in a fairly short time. The Raptors parade was in daylight in good weather. So a more gradual pace was manageable.

There may be unique individual events that draw crowds which the transit network can't handle, and we can't build our transit system for one-of peaks. But it would be very enlightening to know how close this event came to being a new record.

And, given where MLSE teams are at, no need to plan for another victory parade in Toronto anytime soon.

- Paul
 
I'd say that 36,000 pph is insufficient even without seeing the photos of the crowd. Probably double that and you might get close to moving everyone through the station. I get it, there's staffing issues, but we were downtown last year for NYE and it was a crush load crowd then too.

Imagine a hypothetical weekend day where there is an event at Rogers Centre, and SBA, that's nearly 100,000 people along counting fans & event staff. Add in other venues such as Sony Centre etc, and that people have begun to return to the entertainment (club) district, and other hangers on just because. Now we are probably looking at 200,000 to 300,000 people. Not to mention BMO field, bud stage, Coca Cola Colosseum.

For NYE I wouldn't be surprised if there were close to 750,000 people DT.
Yeah given that a single event at the Skydome could be 50,000 people on an ordinary day it's pretty safe to say the NYE influx was well over 200k.

In addition to GO there's also Line 1, which should normally be able to run 30,000 pph on each side of the U, with 1000 people per train and 30 trains per hour. But given the general rowdiness and incompetence of NYE crowds, I don't think there's any way they could get a train through the downtown stations every two minutes. So maybe they could achieve 20 tph, for a total of 40,000 pph on the subway.

Even then, NYE is extreme in that there is a fairly "hard stop" after the event, where everyone tries to get home in a fairly short time. The Raptors parade was in daylight in good weather. So a more gradual pace was manageable.

There may be unique individual events that draw crowds which the transit network can't handle, and we can't build our transit system for one-of peaks. But it would be very enlightening to know how close this event came to being a new record.
Although the subway may have actually been at its limit (assuming they tried to run at least 15 trains per hour), the GO network was nowhere near its infrastructure capacity. They were only running 1 train per hour on most lines, and the most frequent line was only 4 trains per hour.

Assuming all 12-car trains, the capacity of the ordinary PM peak service is:
6 tph (18,000 pph) Lakeshore West
3 tph (9,000 pph) Milton
4 tph (12,000 pph) Kitchener
2 tph (6,000 pph) Barrie
2 tph (6,000 pph) Richmond Hill
2 tph (6,000 pph) Stouffville
4 tph (12,000 pph) Lakeshore East
Total = 69,000 pph

And even that is nowhere near the limit of the infrastructure. We have run as much as 8 tph on Lakeshore West, 6 tph on Milton and 4 tph on Barrie in the past.

So in total with the subway and GO, we could have been running about 140,000 pph for that peak hour (100k GO + 40k subway) which is double what they actually ran.

The other half of the question is how many people try to go home during that peak moment, rather than staying downtown and going home later. I assume that a fairly large proportion of the crowds would head to bars or other parties and not head home during that 00:30-01:30 peak hour anyway, so it's not like we'd need to achieve 750,000 pph to carry the crowds.

Perhaps if GO Transit were also free on the 1st and overnight parking rules were waived, it would encourage more people to crash at a friend's place and go back home the following morning, which would spread out the demand so much that the ordinary holiday service on the 1st could probably handle it.
 
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I don't dispute that ML has a staffing challenge generally, but.... I'm a bit hard nosed on this topic.

As the role of transit grows, we will have to see a different employment bargain that exchanges (whatever) for an expanded requirement to work holiday shifts, or any other time when the public needs peak service.

I'm quite familiar with the realities of what workers do to improve their lot....and I get some interesting input from people who hold union rep roles about what today's workers will and won't accept.... sounds like there is a generational shift .... but at the end of the day, if the employer needs staff for more trains on New Years, the employment bargain should enable that (with appropriate consideration in the other direction, I would stress).

- Paul
I gather aircraft crew members were paid triple-time to work on NYE at small airlines.
 

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