Bordercollie
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Another good reason to have more GO train service to Niagara.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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Another good reason to have more GO train service to Niagara.
cbrown2009
Active Member
More Go train service overall..
superelevation
Active Member
Not going to be much use if MX / GO does something like last week, reducing service for multiple days because of the suspicion it might snow . . . a bit of a problem in Canada!
reaperexpress
Senior Member
None of this is necessary. There's a crossover at Lancaster street east of the station, which GO already uses in order to access Shirley Yard, which is on the north side of the tracks. From that switch eastward to the end of double track is 2.8 km, which is enough to schedule a meet with relatively little delay.
Switch at Lancaster Street
Green segment is double-tracked, dots indicate switches.
But this discussion is moot anyway because they are building passing tracks in Guelph and Breslau as we speak, which are both better located than this one.
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It looks like there’s not much happening this January. As far as the bus service changes go, there’s only schedule adjustments, the usual seasonal reinstatement of Highway 407 and university (Mac, UW/WLU) runs, and a few cuts to buses, such as those that weren’t cut when the Kitchener Line trains were restored. There are a few minor cuts elsewhere, it’s very much a reallocation rather than an overall increase.
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Northern Light
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It looks like there’s not much happening this January. As far as the bus service changes go, there’s only schedule adjustments, the usual seasonal reinstatement of Highway 407 and university (Mac, UW/WLU) runs, and a few cuts to buses, such as those that weren’t cut when the Kitchener Line trains were restored. There are a few minor cuts elsewhere, it’s very much a reallocation rather than an overall increase.
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Mx's Board and Executive, and the gov't ought to be embarrassed at not even having comprehensive restoration of hours in place at this point, let alone long overdue improvements!
KevinT
Senior Member
I ignored that section because more often than not CN leaves a line of cars parked in it just east of the expressway. I suspect the GO trains in the 4 eastern storage tracks have to depart eastbound and then reverse back to the station. Stupidly there's no facing point switch for trains departing that yard westbound until the one you highlighted west of Lancaster, blocked off from the storage yard by that line of parked freight cars.
kalis0490
New Member
I think there are benefits from a GO train stop at the Kitchener boardwalk. @KevinT I know you are from Kitchener do you have any thoughts
Justification:
1. Municipality owned land at the boardwalk
2. Major bus terminal in the vicinity
3. significant density coming in in that area
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4. Was in the consideration be the terminal of Kitchener go in 2009
5. Scheduled to be Terminus of ION stage 3 BRT( in 20 year Ontario transit plan)
6. 5 kms from Kitchener go - > enough tine to accelerate
Justification:
1. Municipality owned land at the boardwalk
2. Major bus terminal in the vicinity
3. significant density coming in in that area
ex
4. Was in the consideration be the terminal of Kitchener go in 2009
5. Scheduled to be Terminus of ION stage 3 BRT( in 20 year Ontario transit plan)
6. 5 kms from Kitchener go - > enough tine to accelerate
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
Right now there is a homeless encampment full of homeless people doing crack. It's not a good image for the downtown of any major city.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
The adjustments are small but very much needed. The last timetable change was only for trains, which broke many of the timed transfers between trains and buses. This reconciles them again.It looks like there’s not much happening this January. As far as the bus service changes go, there’s only schedule adjustments, the usual seasonal reinstatement of Highway 407 and university (Mac, UW/WLU) runs, and a few cuts to buses, such as those that weren’t cut when the Kitchener Line trains were restored. There are a few minor cuts elsewhere, it’s very much a reallocation rather than an overall increase.
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anb
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There's way more service on the entire 407 corridor in general. Extra weekday trips for the 41 between UTSC-Sq One, 56 getting 30 min day service back, and a couple additional trips on the 52. Combined service between Trafalgar/407-RHC and Oshawa-407 Station will be even more frequent than ever. Then there's the 30 min day weekend service on the 47 which is a much needed benefit as it gets really packed when it leaves McMaster at times, and combined service between Hamilton-407 station will be more frequent as well. This is probably the only corridor that has seen a huge improvement out of the changes.
Bureaucromancer
Active Member
Agreed.
In the long run Breslau probably has more strategic potential if we consider greenfield development but Boardwalk would do a lot more in the next 10-15 years.
Honestly the projects should probably be paired.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Based on @anb 's comment about 407 bus services, I made a consolidated timetable for the 407 West corridor (Hamilton - Square One - RHC). These routes are spread across 3 timetables in on GO's website (tables 40, 41 and 54).
The frequencies seem pretty similar to pre-pandemic.
During the AM Peak, service between Square One and Hwy 407 is generally every 10 minutes or better.
During the midday, service is also typically every 10 minutes or better, thanks to some extra services out of McMaster
During the PM Peak, service remains frequent.
It's only after midnight that headways start to exceed 25 minutes. There is 24/7 service along the corridor, with route 40 running hourly overnight.
Many buses continue beyond RHC to the 407 East or 401 East corridors.
In addition to the routes shown in the timetable, the following services also provide overlapping service:
- Route 25 between Erin Mills and Square One
- Route 29 between Erin Mills and Renforth
- Route 48 between Bramalea and 407
- Route 54 between 407 and RHC
The full spreadsheet is available here.
The frequencies seem pretty similar to pre-pandemic.
During the AM Peak, service between Square One and Hwy 407 is generally every 10 minutes or better.
During the midday, service is also typically every 10 minutes or better, thanks to some extra services out of McMaster
During the PM Peak, service remains frequent.
It's only after midnight that headways start to exceed 25 minutes. There is 24/7 service along the corridor, with route 40 running hourly overnight.
Many buses continue beyond RHC to the 407 East or 401 East corridors.
In addition to the routes shown in the timetable, the following services also provide overlapping service:
- Route 25 between Erin Mills and Square One
- Route 29 between Erin Mills and Renforth
- Route 48 between Bramalea and 407
- Route 54 between 407 and RHC
The full spreadsheet is available here.
Undead
Senior Member
Yeah, pre-pandemic the GO's 407 corridor was probably the system's backbone. Glad to see it's still doing well. Eventually this will build the case for the 407 metro line.
sche
Active Member
This is amazing - GO's bus services are usually a massive pain to understand because of all the separate timetable documents for each route.
What's worse, it's not even easy to know which timetables to check because the official system map is completely useless for looking for GO bus routes, so you basically just have to open lots of timetables and look at the route maps to even check if the route is useful to you. I think most GO bus riders probably just blindly follow Google maps or whatever and have a next to no understanding of where any routes actually go apart from the routes they regularly use. Most riders of other systems probably at least have a vague idea of where service goes.
Does anyone know of any unofficial maps that exist that actually depict all GO bus routes? Such a map really needs to exist.