LNahid2000
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Nah, gamblers take the Safeway Tours bus for free, and it drops them right in front of the Casino.
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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E•MO•TION
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I only had the chance to quickly glance at the schedule, but there appears to be a small, but welcome savings of five minutes end-to-end on the Kitchener Line. I wonder if VIA will follow suit?
raptor
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The press release mentioned 20 min savings for the express trips from Kitchener.
crs1026
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My impression is that Ford is feeding ML measured amounts of money - less than the previous government promised, but more than the previous government delivered, and likely reliably so for the future. With both Barrie and Mount Joy expansion now confirmed, fourth track to Bramalea in progress, and some easing of CN's stance on the Halton evident (which may be due to changes in senior personnel at CN, rather than ML's efforts), it's clear that Ford is not playing Grim Reaper with the GO system. I would rather have $XM reliably delivered than (2x$XM) promised but never delivered.
I will still carp about the puffery and misleading numbers and the lack of transparency in all this: the new services mean lots of new seatmiles, which ML will include in its declarations about the % of expansion.....but lots of those seats may run empty, especially on the longer runs to Kitchener and Niagara. But that's only a partly empty glass. Those seats may fill with time.
Note the announcement that some trains may be shorter....I wonder if the latest railcar acquisitions has given GO the breathing room to create some short consists without impairing the number of 12-car trains needed - that may have some efficiencies.
- Paul
crs1026
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The 20 minutes is for a trip that now runs express to Bramalea, so most of the time saved is east of Bramalea. But the slack has been removed from westbound timings to Kitchener. It's progress, hopefully more to come.
- Paul
LNahid2000
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The 610am trip from Kitchener is down to 1 hour, 46 minutes and the 6pm trip from Union is down to 1 hour, 47 minutes.
BTW, hi Carly Rae!
Krypto98
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Is it just me or the existing bus trips to from union on the kitchener line still around?
innsertnamehere
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It appears to be entirely saved between Kitchener and Guelph, Guelph is still posting the same travel times. Travel time between Guelph and Kitchener on the 14:50 train from Union is now 25 minutes, down from 32. This is an improvement of average speed from 41km/h to 54km/h. Still a long way to go.
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This is good stuff. Nice to see the expanded off peak service.
Krypto98
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smallspy
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I'm not a fan of it either, especially when they also use trips per day in other parts of the announcements, but it allows them to puff up the numbers in their press releases - and thus they keep doing it.
Dan
mdrejhon
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Lakeshore East/West Comments
Observing the new Lakeshore schedule. The odd 15/30 min service split still continues to exist on Lakeshore West. No 15-minute service to Aldershot anytime of the day just yet, it's more tangled than Lakeshore East.
I'm pleased to see I can finally depart Hamilton at a much saner time -- nearly 8am -- on a train instead of a bus. Not enough service for West Harbour, but this will be an attraction for me when I need to be in downtown Toronto for about ~9am without departing as early.
Aldershot --> Long Branch Super Express Trains
I just noticed beginning midnight through 2am, you can now catch a GO train from Aldershot to Long Branch in only 30 minutes.
I doubt many people will use these express trains -- it looks like revenue-activation of some deadheading trains.
These trains, however, will be very handy if you are stuck at Aldershot after midnight and need to get closer to Toronto (And the 24 hour streetcar service) -- the bus options are essentially nonexistent at these hours.
The Union-to-Oshawa/Pickering Super Expresses
The new Aldershot-to-LongBranch expresses reminds me of the Pickering/Oshawa expresses (revenue activation of formerly deadheading trains):
There's even an evening option too to get you home from your Oshawa job to your Toronto downtown condo in a mere 40 minutes:
The Union-To-Oakville Super Expresses:
Live downtown, have a job near Oakville GO?
Here's super express options that gets you to Oakville in a mere 26 minutes.
Doubling of West Harbour Service
There are now 6:09, 6:39, 7:09 and 7:49am trains!
Now you can wake up half an hour later, if you feel like catching the 7:49am train from West Harbour, instead of the 7:18am train from Downtown GO!
Some interesting super express options, none nearly as useful as a 45-minute Hamilton-to-Toronto (or vice versa) train. One can wish someday, though.
Observing the new Lakeshore schedule. The odd 15/30 min service split still continues to exist on Lakeshore West. No 15-minute service to Aldershot anytime of the day just yet, it's more tangled than Lakeshore East.
I'm pleased to see I can finally depart Hamilton at a much saner time -- nearly 8am -- on a train instead of a bus. Not enough service for West Harbour, but this will be an attraction for me when I need to be in downtown Toronto for about ~9am without departing as early.
Aldershot --> Long Branch Super Express Trains
I just noticed beginning midnight through 2am, you can now catch a GO train from Aldershot to Long Branch in only 30 minutes.
I doubt many people will use these express trains -- it looks like revenue-activation of some deadheading trains.
These trains, however, will be very handy if you are stuck at Aldershot after midnight and need to get closer to Toronto (And the 24 hour streetcar service) -- the bus options are essentially nonexistent at these hours.
The Union-to-Oshawa/Pickering Super Expresses
The new Aldershot-to-LongBranch expresses reminds me of the Pickering/Oshawa expresses (revenue activation of formerly deadheading trains):
There's even an evening option too to get you home from your Oshawa job to your Toronto downtown condo in a mere 40 minutes:
The Union-To-Oakville Super Expresses:
Live downtown, have a job near Oakville GO?
Here's super express options that gets you to Oakville in a mere 26 minutes.
Doubling of West Harbour Service
There are now 6:09, 6:39, 7:09 and 7:49am trains!
Now you can wake up half an hour later, if you feel like catching the 7:49am train from West Harbour, instead of the 7:18am train from Downtown GO!
Some interesting super express options, none nearly as useful as a 45-minute Hamilton-to-Toronto (or vice versa) train. One can wish someday, though.
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crs1026
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A couple of interesting details :
- There is a four hour gap in eastbound train service from Mount Pleasant, between the 16:00 and 20:00 departures.
- The late afternoon train that departs Kitchener at 14:57 runs express after Malton, leaving a three-hour eastbound gap at Etobicoke North, Weston, and Bloor.
It’s still a significant improvement, but it shows that there is room to grow once there is more track available.
- Paul
Krypto98
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It looks to me like
3:42 Arrival at mount pleasant sits at mount pleasant and turns into the 20:00.
>personally i would have had it turn into a 17:00 train, then add a new train to mount pleasant that could become the 20:00 but of course track space restrictions
21:42 Arrival at mount pleasant deadheads back to union?
The last train to guelph probably deadheads back to union.
the 16:32 union to Bramalea no longer deadheads after its done its trip and becomes the 18:14 train