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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

I'm a big fan. We could either use one brand for the entire network, or possibly revive the names of some of the fallen flags for individual routes.

Niagara, St. Catharines & Toronto Railway anyone?
 
I love how random dudes waiting for their SOs are treated like an expert panel in this article.

GO eyes 3-level parking

Markham
Jul 24, 2008 07:51 PM
Structure could hold more than 500 cars at Centennial Station
By: Joe Fantauzzi

A small building lent some shade to the four men chatting at Centennial GO station Tuesday.

Ross Presta lightheartedly called the track-side quartet a “social club†— one comprised of men waiting for loved ones to arrive on a green and white train just before 5 p.m.

Not far from the platform atop which Mr. Presta, Michael Jodha, Lester Lue and Eddie Johnstone had gathered, a three-storey concrete and brick parking garage is proposed to rise from the ground.

The structure will provide spaces for about 540 vehicles; hundreds more than are currently available.

It is expected the garage, which will serve the McCowan Road and Bullock Drive GO station, will take approximately six months to put up.

During the building period, the 200 parking spaces now at the complex will not be available, according to a report on the proposed garage.

A spokesperson from GO could not be reached by the Economist & Sun’s deadline to answer questions about costs, construction timeline or how they’ll deal with parking during the construction phase.

News of the proposed garage came as a surprise to the men.

Mr. Jodha predicted the garage would cause a change on the ground — namely, a lot more traffic in the area.

He added the proposal is “not a bad idea†but noted for about five minutes, when people get off the trains, vehicles will idle their exhaust into the air.

The men did appear to reach a consensus on the need for an increase in places for GO riders to put their vehicles at the station.

“There’s obviously a need for parking space — this is such a huge community,†Mr. Presta said, adding a number of stations serve the Markham area.

“A lot of people are going to come here,†Mr. Jodha said.

However, when commuters discover the parking spots have disappeared during the building phase of the proposed garage they will find other options, Mr. Presta said.

“When they realize what is going on, they are going to go somewhere else,†he said.

The loss of the spots will be “devastatingâ€, Mr. Jodha said.

Some riders have already adapted to parking issues at the station.

They include those parking at Markville Shopping Centre, which lies just south of the station across Bullock Drive, according to Mr. Johnstone.

GO is working with nearby businesses to accommodate riders during the construction phase, according to the report.

“They should probably make an arrangement with the mall,†Mr. Lue said.

A few commuters are even climbing aboard earlier trains “just to get the parking†at Centennial, Mr. Jodha said.

The parking spaces will be available to the users of the nearby Centennial Community Centre during evenings and weekends, the report shows.

If a passenger drop-off area were to be placed just south of the proposed concrete and brick structure, some trees would be lost on the land, according to the report.

To address the loss of those trees, the town has asked for additional landscaping.

“The parking garage is going to encourage more people to use the GO train system,†town spokesperson Dennis Flaherty said.

The structure fits into the town’s plans for building intensification, as well as the reduction of traffic and greenhouse gases, he added.

“It is using the land within Markham proper in a much more efficient manner,†he said, adding he believes the community is generally supportive of the project.

While the Unionville Ratepayers Association is pleased about the move to create more parking at the Centennial station, the group’s president Richard Talbot called the project “too little too late.â€

He said the Unionville GO station is already beyond parking capacity and needs work, too.

Some commuters are using parking spots on Unionville’s Main Street — a problem he predicted would spill over to Main Street in Markham village while the proposed garage is being built.

“I think we’re going to see a major traffic problem during the (construction) phase,†Mr. Talbot said.

The town acknowledges that during a public meeting in August 2006, area residents north of the train tracks raised concerns about the proposed project which included noise, traffic, lighting and parking during construction.

“Our members’ concerns about the lights are particularly relevant from the upper floors as they will impact a much larger area than surface parking especially at 5 a.m.,†Mr. Talbot said.

In an effort to deal with light escaping into the surrounding neighbourhood from the garage, the town has asked that residents to the north of the structure be shielded from exterior lighting and lights inside the garage — which includes vehicle headlamp light.

Along with the changes on the ground the proposed parking garage is expected to bring, Mr. Jodha predicted changes in the air as well. “That is going to change the wole skyline,†he said.

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There is word that GO is looking at building a GO station for Cherry St.

It would service an area of over 40,000 residents.

GO opposed looking at a station in this area years ago when they knew of the redevelopment of the Portland area. Wondering what change their mind? Oh!! the Gardner coming down.

This could have an impact on TTC plans for the Portland as to headway.
 
Looks like they're aiming for an "Albert Kahn daylight factory" look for that garage...
 
There is word that GO is looking at building a GO station for Cherry St.

It would service an area of over 40,000 residents.

GO opposed looking at a station in this area years ago when they knew of the redevelopment of the Portland area. Wondering what change their mind? Oh!! the Gardner coming down.

This could have an impact on TTC plans for the Portland as to headway.

40,000 residents, but realistically, how many of them will be heading to the eastern suburbs GO serves? The cherry-to-union route is squarely in the hands of TTC. My concern is the new station will increase travel times but for what gain?
 
The Owen Sound line is interesting, but it forgets that there's a fully intact ROW via Brampton/Orangeville, with rails as far as Orangeville, and a fully protected ROW the rest of the way in (former CP line), that with some tinkering, could be a relatively quick ride. The entire route is maintained as a trail and utility corridor.
 
40,000 residents, but realistically, how many of them will be heading to the eastern suburbs GO serves? The cherry-to-union route is squarely in the hands of TTC. My concern is the new station will increase travel times but for what gain?

It was stated on another board GO has had a plan to put in a station there for the past 20 years.

This goes against what GO has said these past few years as the station would be too close to Union, riders would use TTC, very few riders going east or beyond Union and add extra travel time to riders going to/from Union today. At the same time, it would effect trains using the interlock.

I know ppl have asked during various EA studies about having a GO station at Cherry St and as noted about was stated.

If you change how GO is setup and run with smaller EMU's, the station will work severing the larger picture.

The station "Should" have no parking area at all.

The numbers would be small for this station to/from union and for ppl who think TTC is below them.
 
Once GO has EMUs with 10 minute service this would be quite convenient for commuters in the area, and it would a great way for residents from around the region to access the Distillery district... it also improve regional connections to East Bayfront, West Donlands, the Portlands, and Lake Ontario Park
 
Mark, your map link takes me to the Kansas/Oklahoma border.

For those who don't like clicking on links to understand what people are trying to say, I think Mark is looking at advocating a major rail connection to Port Stanley to help facilitate cross-lake service to Cleveland.

There is a rail line to Port Stanley still intact - this was part of the electric London and Port Stanley line once owned by the City of London that provided passenger and freight interurban service between London, St. Thomas and Port Stanley. St. Thomas-Port Stanley is now little more than a tourist line, while London-St. Thomas is now an important CN freight spur.
 

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