nfitz
Superstar
Why the walkway on the north? It doesn't seem to get anywhere the main north exit gets too.
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GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)
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officedweller
Senior Member
Could just be a long ramp for handicapped access to the overpass, for if/when the elevator breaks down.
On the south side there's an alternate entrance with an elevator, if an elevator breaks down.
That's all I could think of.
On the south side there's an alternate entrance with an elevator, if an elevator breaks down.
That's all I could think of.
StClairWestUrbanist
New Member
Is there enough room in the corridor for two platforms and eight tracks, or would the Milton Line have to be single-tracked through the area?They are full length, ~300m platforms:
crs1026
Superstar
The planned track layout was reduced to seven tracks as there was not enough width for more, given two platforms.
.Milton appears to get the single track.
- Paul
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Just a reminder, GO RER won’t use EMUs. They’re going with shorter, electric locomotive-hauled trains.
Amare
Senior Member
Will the Milton Line now be serving King-Liberty station? Last word was that Kitchener Line trains would serve the station while Milton Line trains would bypass it if my memory serves correct.
crs1026
Superstar
The latest plan (it had been changing several times, but since it has gone through procurement it’s effectively final) is for only Kitchener/UP tracks to have platforms.
- Paul
robmausser
Senior Member
Source? I thought it was simply up to the awarded consortium to decide what to do.
generalcanada
Senior Member
pretty much back to the official announcement last march they explicitly said that the consortium showed them that they could do the exact same service levels without buying new emu train sets.
which means theyre going to keep all the bi-levels and refurbrish them
rbt
Senior Member
True. They're in the Development Phase at the moment, so there is no firm plan yet.
That said, Alstom's press release when winning the contract gives a pretty clear direction they intend to follow as there is mention of electric locomotives and existing bilevel car upgrades, and no mention of either new passenger rolling stock or EMUs.
If the agreement was a 40 year maintenance period, rather than 25 year, then a different decision may have been made. 40 years is enough time to build new rolling stock and run them into the ground.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
For context, the DB-led consortium probably won (got advanced into the development phase) due to the "creative" decision to use electric locomotives and bi-levels with enhanced frequencies, which likely resulted in significant cost savings (no massive EMU purchase, no complex maintenance facility upgrades).True. They're in the Development Phase at the moment, so there is no firm plan yet.
That said, Alstom's press release when winning the contract gives a pretty clear direction they intend to follow as there is mention of electric locomotives and existing bilevel car upgrades, and no mention of either new passenger rolling stock or EMUs.
If the agreement was a 40 year maintenance period, rather than 25 year, then a different decision may have been made. 40 years is enough time to build new rolling stock and run them into the ground.
I am fine with electric locos and shorter bi-level trains for now - as long as the system is electrified it leaves the door open for EMUs down the road. Maybe, if something like the Milton Line gets enhanced and electrified in the next decade, we will start to see EMUs introduced, if more rollingstock is needed.
crs1026
Superstar
Exactly. At the end of the day, it's a spreadsheet exercise.
We spectators may have a theoretical understanding of some of the underlying variables and tradeoffs - cost of building and maintaining locos and coaches versus EMU's, cost of buying a new fleet versus minimising new acquisitions and getting the most out of current assets, relative performance capabilities of each.
But somebody did a spreadsheet using the real world data and projections, and a fiscal model driven by their real world experience and expectations.
We spectators can't replicate that calculation and so the answer that ML goes with may be different than our semi-informed guesses and opinions.
- Paul
Transportfan
Senior Member
Will the new stations have high platforms?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The West Harbour GO track connection appears to have started construction. Looks like it'll be a new track beside the existing CN tracks to about Ferguson, so about 700m of new track. I wonder if GO will try to park 2 trains on it overnight.
From James looking east:
From John looking east:
Also - CN has cleared far, far more than 11 mature trees here that look way more unnecessary to clear.. funny how there isn't an injunction here.
From James looking east:
From John looking east:
Also - CN has cleared far, far more than 11 mature trees here that look way more unnecessary to clear.. funny how there isn't an injunction here.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
The terminology around this is kinda frustrating. GO will never nor has ever planned for high platforms like UPX. They have looked at low, level boarding (think existing bi-level door height without the step).
That being said, I am not sure what the SmartTrack stations will have on opening day (approx 2026) but I suspect it will be what the rest of the GO network has today with provisions to upgrade it to level boarding in the future.