robmausser
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New Track & Facilities
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GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)
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News to me...
Northern Light
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crs1026
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^This is why I try to save a copy of as many briefing and public meeting documents as I can as ML proceeds. The hand is quicker than the eye. Most of this is already known, but stuff gets repackaged and moved around.... a convenient way to avoid commitments or answering for things not moving.
- Paul
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innsertnamehere
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So basically they identified the need for a new layover on the Lakeshore East and West lines. Wonder why - are the planning to increase service on those lines above what they planned in February?
robmausser
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This map is helpful to visualize some of the track work
crs1026
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My (optimistic) speculation is that, as the DBFOM RFP has unfolded, proponents are pointing out showstoppers - ie areas of uncertainly or high risk, and/or suggesting improvements to the plan... and ML is tackling some of these off line in the interest of reducing bidders' risk (and therefore their pricing) or project timeframes.
Bidders may have spotted areas where they feel that past EA's were insufficient, and would be unwilling to take legal risks until/unless any t's are crossed and i's dotted with the EA foundation.
The layover yards are interesting - the RFP is long term and therefore the ultimate short-headway end system service plan must be fleshed out. One new objective may be to minimise deadheading especially in the congested USRC area. Fifteen minute service means four equipment moves an hour in each direction for each route just to get started in the morning, without counting peak service or express trains.
I also note A5 - a LSE turnback track at Eglinton GO... hadn't seen that before (or did I miss it?).
- Paul
Northern Light
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You didn't; that's new.
Allandale25
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Where's the new layover proposed for LSW?
Allandale25
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I assume for "A7: New Third Track, Thickson Rd Bridge Expansion, and New Track and Island Platform at Oshawa GO" it'll help enable the Bowmanville Extension using the GM spur. I think the abutments on the north side were added to the Thickson overpass during the Whitby Rail Maintenance Facility project.
crs1026
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A1 - Beach had been tabled at the last round of consultations.
I don't recall A2 - Walkers' Line being on the list before now.
- Paul
NodeGreen11
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It's not new for the Eglinton turnback track, though the midland layover as part of the Scarborough junction grade separation is new.
No one in the Feb open house can answer me why the Eglinton layover is needed for some reason.
All the numbers are shifted by 1 due to the new layover at Walkers Line
Northern Light
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reaperexpress
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There are actually two. "Beach Yard" is a 16-train facility proposed west of Burlington station:
and "Walkers Line Layover Facility" is a 9-train yard proposed about 1.5 km west of Appleby:
The LSW line could really use some west-end layovers, trains do an awful lot of deadheading at the moment. I particularly like the Beach site: trains would be able to pop out of the yard directly into service at Burlington Station. Nifty!
The stated purpose is to make it easier to get from the yard to the platforms at Oshawa, but yes it would continue to be useful when the line is extended.
The one that caught my eye is the "new track around York U GO". The line was already double-tracked in that area a couple years ago (and the station itself already head a second track long before that), so I'm really not sure what that would be about. Maybe they actually meant Downsview Park, which is still single-tracked at the moment? But the map does also highlight the area around York U.
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NodeGreen11
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Considering that the Midland layover and Eglinton Turnaround Track is less than 1 km, Metrolinx might just as well connect them together. *The 4th track*
crs1026
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I wondered about that also. We’ve assumed that the contracts already let for beginning the double track north of Davenport will extend all the way to the existing DT that runs north from Steeles.... but I recall seeing a document somewhere that hinted it only went as far as Sheppard. Maybe there was a gap remaining, and this is the fill.
- Paul