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Finch West Line 6 LRT

I actually drove Finch from Finch West to hwy 400 last night and the one LRV I did see waited about 5 whole seconds after the transit signal turned green before moving forward.
For this to be practice they would need to have some checklist they are following to put the train in motion, which means we have gotten to a point where the only way to efficiently perform the checklist is to replace the driver with AI.
 
I entirely suspect the TTC has applied the exact same operating standards from the streetcar system onto Line 6 and the grade sections of Line 5

I actually drove Finch from Finch West to hwy 400 last night and the one LRV I did see waited about 5 whole seconds after the transit signal turned green before moving forward.

Absolute insanity considering the time delay between the left turn advanced green and the transit signal green ALREADY ACCOUNTS FOR ANY CARS THAT MAY STILL BE IN THE INTERSECTION!!! God the TTC needs a reality check
When doing my video for the Finch West Line I read that during testing ML was operating trains up to 60km/h, now of course that was probably without making any stops. Makes me wonder if maybe Metrolinx should be the ones operating the line and not the TTC. Hell has truly frozen over if ML is the better option. Plus maybe if Metrolinx asks Doug nicely he'd introduce legislation making it illegal to sue Metrolinx for any accidents on the line (like he did with cyclists), that would certainly eliminate the fear of litigation form operations. Of course this is all moot now as its in the TTC's hands and they we'll operate it the way they want, although I would like to see ML put pressure on the TTC to speed things up since ultimately ML still owns the line.
 
When doing my video for the Finch West Line I read that during testing ML was operating trains up to 60km/h, now of course that was probably without making any stops. Makes me wonder if maybe Metrolinx should be the ones operating the line and not the TTC. Hell has truly frozen over if ML is the better option. Plus maybe if Metrolinx asks Doug nicely he'd introduce legislation making it illegal to sue Metrolinx for any accidents on the line (like he did with cyclists), that would certainly eliminate the fear of litigation form operations. Of course this is all moot now as its in the TTC's hands and they we'll operate it the way they want, although I would like to see ML put pressure on the TTC to speed things up since ultimately ML still owns the line.
They might need to pass it with notwithstanding clause which needs to be renewed every 5 years. Idiots will sue claiming they can be in danger from faster LRVs running. The bias judges will somehow support this claim.
 
Apropos of nothing, we should be doing everything in our power to make sure Line 7 EELRT never sees the light of day.
I really hope this project never happens. With how fast/frequent the 905/986 buses are, this would definitely be spending billions of dollars to make commutes slower.
 
They might need to pass it with notwithstanding clause which needs to be renewed every 5 years. Idiots will sue claiming they can be in danger from faster LRVs running. The bias judges will somehow support this claim.
Biased judges? Please
 
Apropos of nothing, we should be doing everything in our power to make sure Line 7 EELRT never sees the light of day. I'd even say scrap the WELRT at this point. Put the money that would go into those two projects into grade separated projects only.

The TTC and Transportation Services Toronto (reason we don't have signal priority) simply cannot be trusted to operate grade running rail infrastructure at first-world standards.
The proposed Line 7 would be a disastrous waste of resources but the Waterfront East "LRT" is fine, inasmuch as it's just an expansion of the legacy streetcar network into an area where it makes eminent sense to do it. Whether they can operate it like a proper tram service is a different question of course lol
 
I really hope this project never happens. With how fast/frequent the 905/986 buses are, this would definitely be spending billions of dollars to make commutes slower.
Not to mention that Eglinton East has several branchng routes using those bus lanes, many of which would be truncated, forcing an additional transfer to the lrt and slowing commutes east of the lrt that much more that much more. I don't believe the LRT we got was the perfect choice for Finch West, but it makes more sense than one on Eglinton East, imo.
 
I really hope this project never happens. With how fast/frequent the 905/986 buses are, this would definitely be spending billions of dollars to make commutes slower.
Agreed, the Eglinton East LRT project is a complete and utter embarrassment, there is no way I'm expected to believe that spending billions of dollars on a line just to get people who are on Eglinton Ave E, Kingston Road, and Morningside Ave off of buses that already show up frequent enough and onto an LRT only to have to make a transfer at Kennedy just to continue going west, and vice versa as is currently makes any sense. I live in the around the area and I can tell you this line wouldn't make any difference to my current commute.
 
I'm amused at the number of people jumping to conclusions for a service that hasn't even started revenue service, let alone hardened. Let's wait and see (and note what improvements are necessary) before we start hating anything that sits at grade level.
I'm not sure reading the public schedule is necessarily jumping to conclusions.
 
I'm amused at the number of people jumping to conclusions for a service that hasn't even started revenue service, let alone hardened. Let's wait and see (and note what improvements are necessary) before we start hating anything that sits at grade level.
Well I mean, there's a lot of things that one can draw conclusions on based on how the TTC writes up the service schedule.

Other things will become apparent once we see the line in action (ie: is the TTC still intent on their idiotic 10km/h rule at signalized intersections, special trackwork speed restrictions, portal speed restrictions, etc.).
 
I'm amused at the number of people jumping to conclusions for a service that hasn't even started revenue service, let alone hardened. Let's wait and see (and note what improvements are necessary) before we start hating anything that sits at grade level.
I don't actually have anything against at grade LRT. I think that some of the stops were needlessly close together (like why can people walk to an underground station and go down 4 storeys, but walking to an at grade stop is hard?? But I think with the proper implementation (i.e. signal prioritization and gates for safety) and in the right environment (i.e. large distances between intersections) it can work great. However, if the TTC is publishing a timetable with certain times it isn't jumping to conclusions to criticize it... either (a) the timetable is what the TTC plans to follow, (b) the TTC doesn't know how to make timetables... perhaps this is AI slop, or (c) both.
 
I don't actually have anything against at grade LRT. I think that some of the stops were needlessly close together (like why can people walk to an underground station and go down 4 storeys, but walking to an at grade stop is hard?? But I think with the proper implementation (i.e. signal prioritization and gates for safety) and in the right environment (i.e. large distances between intersections) it can work great. However, if the TTC is publishing a timetable with certain times it isn't jumping to conclusions to criticize it... either (a) the timetable is what the TTC plans to follow, (b) the TTC doesn't know how to make timetables... perhaps this is AI slop, or (c) both.
For the streetcar network at least, headway operation is something that Transit Control sometimes uses. It's because of this, and a lack of real world data to base a schedule on, I am not treating the schedule as anything other than a placeholder.

This isn't to dismiss all criciticims, but I plan to wait and see revenue operation and data before complaining about the schedule and operation of the line.
 

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