coffey1
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Certainly we have smart enough planners out there to build the SSE in a much more economical manner.
Thanks for the kind words.
Ill be the first one to admit the SSE can be done much cheaper. But weve wasted time arguing technologies instead of investigating plans to provide seamless connections and bridge our suburbs. It doesn't have to be that expensive but Politics is being played.
The ridership is above what the majority of existing stops even now even after the biggest condo boom & people avoiding the RT like the plague. I would love to see them close down half of the so called "wastes" shut down to save me precious commute time in the City.
The money can always be found if It's the cost of equity. You make it seem as if Toronto was of density since the beginning of time. The reason they have density is because of transit and planning around it. Not vice versa. Scarborough does not have a density problem. We have a Political problem.
Mcguinty (thankfully) refused to fund Transfer City to being anything useful in the Miller days, Metrolinx took the UTSC - SMLRT off the next wave (approx. 100 year radar), and McGuinty even cut Sheppard back from Meadowvale. Ford basically tapped into the obvious disgust for this disrespectful plan. Clearly you liked it but us idiots DONT.
I really hope you don't live near a privileged transit riding throwing out such personal vile towards transit riders that don't. STC and "Subway to nowhere" DO NOT go together. But ill name a few stops that could be much more applicable to this effort at propaganda BS.
And It's not technology its the implementation and design. Eglinton LRT to UTSC is a properly designed route. SLRT and Sheppard LRT are sad attempts to hack in Scarborough.
You may think its acceptable but I don't by any stretch and I would argue its this "half assed" design is what F'd up Toronto transit planning by those that didn't bother to listen. Now were all paying the price of this division.
I've been reading this thread for weeks and held my peace. But with the recent news about the ridiculous escalation yet again with the SSE, and the non-stop horseshit coming out of certain Scarborough residues here, I've had all that I can take.
It's people like you, coffey1, that have seriously f**d up the entire transit picture in this city. Transit funding is a scarce and precious resource and when idiots like you speak up, and politicians like Rob Ford and now John Tory (who I used to admire) lap up your misplaced "anger", you have totally removed any intelligence, logic and rational thinking in the whole thing. This bullshit "woe is me" / attitude of alienation that many of you Scarbourough residents have has totally screwed up the entire picture for the whole city. We're all paying for your bullshit subway to nowhere and will do so for years and years.
Here's the bottom line:
The density and projected ridership for the SSE is not enough.
PLUS
The money cannot be found.
EQUALS (or should equal, in a rational world)
NO DAMN SSE.
SIMPLE. The rest of the world can figure it out, why can't you Scarberians?
"Urgency", "priority", "under-investment", "neglect", "being ignored", whatever the hell else you or your best bud Glen De Baermaker want to call it, all of this HAS NO PLACE IN TRANSIT PLANNING. Transit planning SHOULD ONLY CARE ABOUT density and travel patterns, and the money should be spent to best match that.
Money is PRECIOUS and to squander it YET AGAIN on a white elephant subway in this city is absolutely abominable. You will bankrupt us all, is that what you want?
Thanks for the kind words.
Ill be the first one to admit the SSE can be done much cheaper. But weve wasted time arguing technologies instead of investigating plans to provide seamless connections and bridge our suburbs. It doesn't have to be that expensive but Politics is being played.
The ridership is above what the majority of existing stops even now even after the biggest condo boom & people avoiding the RT like the plague. I would love to see them close down half of the so called "wastes" shut down to save me precious commute time in the City.
The money can always be found if It's the cost of equity. You make it seem as if Toronto was of density since the beginning of time. The reason they have density is because of transit and planning around it. Not vice versa. Scarborough does not have a density problem. We have a Political problem.
Mcguinty (thankfully) refused to fund Transfer City to being anything useful in the Miller days, Metrolinx took the UTSC - SMLRT off the next wave (approx. 100 year radar), and McGuinty even cut Sheppard back from Meadowvale. Ford basically tapped into the obvious disgust for this disrespectful plan. Clearly you liked it but us idiots DONT.
I really hope you don't live near a privileged transit riding throwing out such personal vile towards transit riders that don't. STC and "Subway to nowhere" DO NOT go together. But ill name a few stops that could be much more applicable to this effort at propaganda BS.
And It's not technology its the implementation and design. Eglinton LRT to UTSC is a properly designed route. SLRT and Sheppard LRT are sad attempts to hack in Scarborough.
You may think its acceptable but I don't by any stretch and I would argue its this "half assed" design is what F'd up Toronto transit planning by those that didn't bother to listen. Now were all paying the price of this division.
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