Allandale25
Senior Member
Statement:
And the commute from Finch and Morningside or Sheppard and Meadowvale to the nearest subway station is an hour, if not more. What's your point? We are comparing apples and grapes here. Scarborough has more than twice the population of Etobicoke yet "Fordites" are being accused of picking one area over another based on merit apparently. Eesh!
SSE as a single stop proposal is indeed wasteful, 4 stops makes more sense, even if it winds up costing more than $5 billion (the arbitrary dollar amount you seem to be fixated on although the DRL could cost 4 times higher than that). If we'd just build things right the first time like never building the SRT in the first place and extending the subway to SCC from the '80s, it wouldn't cost the City billion$ to correct things now.
How many "GO train" stations does Scarborough have now? How many future "GO train" and "SmartTrack" stations will Scarborough have in the future? Which would provide "express" service within Scarborough, and unless Doug Ford cancels it, better transfer connecting with the TTC.
Good riddance, he was one of the councillors who got more and more delusional as his tenure went on. I dont know where he went wrong, because in the beginning he actually had good intentions and up until around 2012 he did some really good work. He really went of the rails after his OneCity delusional plan.De Baeremaeker OUT.
He was an opportunist. He was fully onboard with the SRT update back in 2006, then when the winds blew towards the LRT he jumped ship to that. When the winds once again blew in another direction towards the Subway he laid anchor there. I guarantee had the political winds moved in another a direction he would be following closely behind. It's commendable that he wanted better transit for Scarborough however he also showed he didn't care how or what would get built and merely bought into the flavor of the month. De Baeremaeker wasn't a leader but a follower.Good riddance, he was one of the councillors who got more and more delusional as his tenure went on. I dont know where he went wrong, because in the beginning he actually had good intentions and up until around 2012 he did some really good work. He really went of the rails after his OneCity delusional plan.
He was an opportunist. He was fully onboard with the SRT update back in 2006, then when the winds blew towards the LRT he jumped ship to that. When the winds once again blew in another direction towards the Subway he laid anchor there. I guarantee had the political winds moved in another a direction he would be following closely behind. It's commendable that he wanted better transit for Scarborough however he also showed he didn't care how or what would get built and merely bought into the flavor of the month. De Baeremaeker wasn't a leader but a follower.
GdB just announced he is not seeking re-election
Hopefully it does so he knows never to step foot in City Hall in any capacity ever again.I truly hope the doorknob leaves him unharmed when he leaves City Hall.
- Paul
Looks like those winds are blowing again...
Supporting one-stop Scarborough subway was a 'mistake': De Baeremaeker
Kind of funny how major officials that resign (Keesmaat, Byford) share their true feelings once they're no longer forced to support the SSE.
From that article:
“There are people who look at them and say we can never trust these people today,” he said. “I cannot trust my downtown colleagues because I know it's them first, us second.”
This is exactly why this guy should never have been a public servant. Feeding animosity between people just because they live in different parts of the city is just evil. Good riddance!
He has never understood why people from all parts of the city oppose the SSE: it’s not about “Scarborough second”. It never has been. It’s because we want our hard-earned tax dollars to be spent rationally and not politically. Rational transit planning (a concept totally lost on this idiot and particular people on this board) by experts has repeatedly shown that Scarborough doesn’t have the density or ridership to warrant a subway extension. Full stop.
- We need someone to admit that the best plan was the SRT upgrade from 2006. It's now too late (SmartTrack on the corridor). Politics got in way and the switch was made to LRT.
- Then they need to admit that the connected ECLRT/SRT was the next best plan from 2012. It's now too late (ECLRT progressed too far). Politics got in the way with the Liberals hiding this report during City voting and provincial by-elections, and then Liberals jumping on the subway plan.
- The last thing to admit is that both the SSE and the transfer LRT plans are bad and could have been better (as demonstrated twice above). It was Liberal and City Council politics that got in the way and caused the mess. Tory was let down by Council (we just followed previous council decision) and by experts (Keesmaat was architect of 1 stop subway plan. The solution may be to open the door to find the next best solution - and not go back to failed plans.
- And the reasons those bad plan went forward (large City council, provincial Liberal government) are no longer in place so maybe we really can find the best solution (that's still available).
- We need someone to admit that the best plan was the SRT upgrade from 2006. It's now too late (SmartTrack on the corridor). Politics got in way and the switch was made to LRT.
- Then they need to admit that the connected ECLRT/SRT was the next best plan from 2012. It's now too late (ECLRT progressed too far). Politics got in the way with the Liberals hiding this report during City voting and provincial by-elections, and then Liberals jumping on the subway plan.
- The last thing to admit is that both the SSE and the transfer LRT plans are bad and could have been better (as demonstrated twice above). It was Liberal and City Council politics that got in the way and caused the mess. Tory was let down by Council (we just followed previous council decision) and by experts (Keesmaat was architect of 1 stop subway plan. The solution may be to open the door to find the next best solution - and not go back to failed plans.
- And the reasons those bad plan went forward (large City council, provincial Liberal government) are no longer in place so maybe we really can find the best solution (that's still available).
- We need someone to admit that the best plan was the SRT upgrade from 2006. It's now too late (SmartTrack on the corridor). Politics got in way and the switch was made to LRT.
- Then they need to admit that the connected ECLRT/SRT was the next best plan from 2012. It's now too late (ECLRT progressed too far). Politics got in the way with the Liberals hiding this report during City voting and provincial by-elections, and then Liberals jumping on the subway plan.
- The last thing to admit is that both the SSE and the transfer LRT plans are bad and could have been better (as demonstrated twice above). It was Liberal and City Council politics that got in the way and caused the mess. Tory was let down by Council (we just followed previous council decision) and by experts (Keesmaat was architect of 1 stop subway plan. The solution may be to open the door to find the next best solution - and not go back to failed plans.
- And the reasons those bad plan went forward (large City council, provincial Liberal government) are no longer in place so maybe we really can find the best solution (that's still available).