Voltz
Senior Member
Then it should be moderated and the garbage be gotten rid of.
It's not garbage just because you disagree with it.
Then it should be moderated and the garbage be gotten rid of.
It's not garbage just because you disagree with it.
If the media and other politicians are still talking about LRT, I don't see any reason we shouldn't discuss it. It's not quite the dead horse we see in some other threads, with the complaining about building subway and not LRT into Vaughan, and going on about the TTC not running the Yonge-Danforth and Yonge-Bloor service any more (despite it not being possible since they started constructing the Spadina subway in the early 1970s).It is garbage because there is no productivity in going over the arguments every day. The city has decided subway. Drop the LRT!
If we added stops in between SCC and Kennedy SCC will still have comparable ridership to both Kipling and Islington. Smarttrack is the problem for ridership, and more importantly the transfer is not wanted in this location by people who actually care the future of SCC but that clearly has been pointed out to you as well, and you choose to ignore.
What are you expecting to read in here if there is no actual new news?
And yes, you are not being forced to read this thread.
As long as the discussion is civil the mods should keep the thread open.
Besides this is an ongoing project, it would be stupid to close the thread.
You must be new to internet discussion forums.It is stupid to make the same arguments over and over (especially when everyone knows where one stands).
If there were just two stops in the 6km between Kipling and Runnymede instead of 4, then it's ridership would skyrocket too.
They aren't adding anymore stops because there isn't enough money nor riders to justify it.
It is stupid to make the same arguments over and over (especially when everyone knows where one stands).
Kipling would get Islington's riders, Runnymede would get the rest: Royal York, Old Mill, Jane. Not sure which ridership would exactly "skyrocket."
There would be quite enough riders at Lawrence East, and even moreso at Sheppard / McCowan if it was the terminus. I'm not sure about Brimley / Eglinton.
The reason they dropped those stations is the shortage of funds, and in case of Lawrence East, the city's refusal to study cut-n-cover construction that could make the tunnel less deep and the station less expensive.
Kipling would get Islington's riders, Runnymede would get the rest: Royal York, Old Mill, Jane. Not sure which ridership would exactly "skyrocket."
One wonders if the public would be so against the Scarborough expansion had the Province beefed up its funding commitment and got the line routed all the way to Malvern with stops at Brimley/Eglinton, Lawrence, the Town Centre, Bellamy, Progress Campus, and Markham/Sheppard en route. At least then the criticism that the LRT plan has more stops and ergo is superior would be stymied.
But wouldn't the cost (which would be much higher) become an even bigger issue then?
Well, the optics would at least look better.
$5 billion for a single new station or approximately $10 billion for 7-8, depending on whether the terminus is near Neilson or Morningside Hts.
I think Kipling would get a lot of Royal York riders, but the point stands - one of those stations would see a massive boost in ridership.
Scarborough doesn't have the density to support it.
That's why comparable numbers between Kipling and STC on this extension make for a poor argument.