steveintoronto
Superstar
Excellent response Lis! I was surfing on-line to find something suitable, and I am disappointed by some of Kolb's suggestions, albeit the media has a habit of losing the context of remarks.
Water filled plastic barriers with fence on top look d0-able in lieu of "jersey barriers", but they all have serious drawbacks, and at the end of the day, something like the bottom pic above could be the answer, but not in metal. Make it something with give to it, like recycled plastic or rubber. I have a concern for cars hitting the the metal type seen above, and them becoming spears into oncoming cyclists. It's a very real risk w/o the cars being forced to stay that side of the curb.
I keep posting the following, and erasing it, been doing this all morning, but you and a few others in this string will relate to this. It's all too easy to point to the obvious (stark freakin' obvious) "accidents waiting to happen" like the stretches on Lakeshore....but if I go to that meeting on the Bloor Bike Lanes, which I find incredibly dangerous as well, God knows how I won't lose it with the 'do-gooders' touting how progressive they are in Toronto when it's nothing less than a frikkin joke how the Bloor Lanes have been designed, presented and compromised.
I'd best stop ranting now, I'm headed out to do some miles, and will do a bit on the Bloor Lanes just to see if anything ever changes...
Will continue search for apt barriers when I return. lol...if I return. Something of the nature shown above is very reasonable cost, and with more vertical posts, would most likely have prevented the 5 year-old's death. Meshing added to the above basic design might be enough to address retaining cyclists/pedestrians from falling into traffic. As to what prevents the traffic coming across into the cycle/pedestrian path is another matter...
Bear in mind that the stretch where the accident happened is very limited in width available for any form of barrier.
Water filled plastic barriers with fence on top look d0-able in lieu of "jersey barriers", but they all have serious drawbacks, and at the end of the day, something like the bottom pic above could be the answer, but not in metal. Make it something with give to it, like recycled plastic or rubber. I have a concern for cars hitting the the metal type seen above, and them becoming spears into oncoming cyclists. It's a very real risk w/o the cars being forced to stay that side of the curb.
I keep posting the following, and erasing it, been doing this all morning, but you and a few others in this string will relate to this. It's all too easy to point to the obvious (stark freakin' obvious) "accidents waiting to happen" like the stretches on Lakeshore....but if I go to that meeting on the Bloor Bike Lanes, which I find incredibly dangerous as well, God knows how I won't lose it with the 'do-gooders' touting how progressive they are in Toronto when it's nothing less than a frikkin joke how the Bloor Lanes have been designed, presented and compromised.
I'd best stop ranting now, I'm headed out to do some miles, and will do a bit on the Bloor Lanes just to see if anything ever changes...
Will continue search for apt barriers when I return. lol...if I return. Something of the nature shown above is very reasonable cost, and with more vertical posts, would most likely have prevented the 5 year-old's death. Meshing added to the above basic design might be enough to address retaining cyclists/pedestrians from falling into traffic. As to what prevents the traffic coming across into the cycle/pedestrian path is another matter...
Bear in mind that the stretch where the accident happened is very limited in width available for any form of barrier.
