taal
Senior Member
These are the renderings of "downtown Markham" btw ... excluding the city place buildings that is.
^I said "where does it go?"... not where is the entrance.
^I said "where does it go?"... not where is the entrance.
Look at the condos on Bay Street - they're independently developed (not a master planned megaproject), have a much higher density, have retail and Bay Street hasn't turned into a destination retail strip.
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Good points. I live on Bay in these canyon of condos solely for their accessibility to other areas and not their street life. It doesn't matter because I'm so close to Yorkville, the village, Yonge/Dundas and little Italy/Annex. There is no need for Bay to be a destination.
City Place lacks this accessibility to other destinations except China Town, the waterfront (is this really a destination?) and the sports complexes (Rogers, ACC and the Ex). Once the streetcar comes in along Fort York and the surrounding area is built a sence or belonging and completion should take hold around City Place. As an island on its own, it comes up short. The lack of transit connectivity and proximity to other established "lived-in" areas adds to City Place's failure.
I live on Bay in these canyon of condos solely for their accessibility to other areas and not their street life... There is no need for Bay to be a destination.
But Bay Street is ALREADY in the middle of a destination.
CityPlace is a HUGE swath of land (a one-time blank canvas, if you will) that could have been developed into a sort of second downtown. That's the argument.
Walking from Bay/College to whatever is really no big deal.
Walking from Spadina/Bathurst/Bremner/Front to whatever is a whole other thing. There is a psychological divide that I'm trying to point out.